Hydro-therapy tub motor on multi-bath outlet circuit

Originally Posted By: jonofrey
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The GFCI outlet protecting the multiple bathroom outlets failed under testing and could not be reset. The hydro-tub did not operate and no other means of protection could be found. Usually these tub motors are on their own circuit so it’s a no-brainer. I don’t think the hydro-tub should be on the bath outlet circuit. Is that right?



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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Quote:
210.11(C)(3) Bathroom Branch Circuits. In addition to the number of branch circuits required by other parts of this section, at least one 20 ampere branch circuit shall be provided to supply the bathroom receptacle outlet(s). Such circuit shall have no other outlets.


Receptacle outlets are required to be separate from fixture outlets (lights & fans). The hydro-massage tub is required to be GFCI protected, but not necessarily on its own circuit as far as I can tell.


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Originally Posted By: jonofrey
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I was afraid of that.



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Thanks Jeff.



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Originally Posted By: jpope
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The exception would be the rating of the pump. If a circuit of more than 20 amps is needed, it would have its own “dedicated” GFCI protected circuit.



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Originally Posted By: bbadger
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210.11(C)(3)Exception: Where the 20-ampere circuit supplies a single bathroom, outlets for other equipment within the same bathroom shall be permitted to be supplied in accordance with 210.23(A).


So it is possible to power the tub from the same 20 amp circuit as the sink receptacle.

Really crappy design choice though. ![icon_rolleyes.gif](upload://iqxt7ABYC2TEBomNkCmZARIrQr6.gif)

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Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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210.23(A)(2) can also apply


Utilization Equipment Fastened in Place. The total rating of utilization equipment fastened in place, other than luminaires (lighting fixtures), shall not exceed 50 percent of the branch-circuit ampere rating where lighting units, cord-and-plug-connected utilization equipment not fastened in place, or both, are also supplied.


Originally Posted By: jonofrey
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My wife’s hair dryer is 10.83 amps.



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Originally Posted By: bbadger
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jonofrey wrote:
My wife's hair dryer is 10.83 amps.


That does not matter as the hair dryer is not fastened in place.

Now if the tub is 10.1 amps there is a problem.


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