I'm killing real estate Concierge programs for HI's

Originally Posted By: gromicko
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categories.


Buyer's agents (agents working with home buyers) having a fiduciary duty to their client (the home buyer) and a responsibility to help them throughout the entire home buying process.

Buyer's agents should not be steering their clients away from certified home inspectors just because these inspectors haven't paid to join their Concierge program.

If a buyer's agent is going to recommend home inspectors to their client they should (and have a contractual obligation to) recommend the best inspectors, not the inspectors that pay the most.

Toward that end I have asked several of my REALTOR friends who are active in legislative and ethics matters to intercede on our behalf and end this practice... quietly.

I don't want to cause a big stink, I just want the home inspectors categories to be removed from Concierge programs.

Nick


Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Nick


Keep doing what you are doing.

Ethics, for Realtors, SURE, will catch up with them.

Mike P.


Originally Posted By: rspriggs
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Go, Nick!


I’m not sure if I mentioned to you when you were here at the Loveland (attempted Anti-NACHI Home Inspectors Legislation) Meeting that a local office of a RE Franchise with a deeply-seated Concierge Program tossed my brochures. And brochure holder. Several times.


Each time I asked where my info went, I got a new song and dance tune. Finally, somebody accidentally told me that “Regional” was through on an inspection, and all “other” brochures had to be removed.


When “removed” was defined, I had to work at keeping my calm when I asked why I was not simply asked to (personally) remove my (personal possession) materials.


My plexi bro holders had my name & # on the bottom, an attractive label on the front, and a couple dozen brochures in them - each time.


You can imagine why I have not set foot back in that franchise.


Russ Spriggs,
Colorado Chapter Coordinator
www.AceHomeInspections.org
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Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Coldwell Banker’s Concierge Program was ordered to cease and desist including home inspectors in Florida some time ago.


Some Coldwell Offices are corporate, some are owned by NRT. The scary thing is that Coldwell also owns Century 21 and ERA, and now... Realtor.com

Concierge and similar programs could really hurt many an inspector. It is also no guarantee you'd get a single referral. Its funny how the program (doesn't) always work as intended.

Go get 'em Nick...


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Joe Farsetta

Illigitimi Non Carborundum
"Dont let the bastards grind you down..."

Originally Posted By: ekartal
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Total scam.


Erol Kartal


Originally Posted By: ekartal
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Russell,


Did they say why they tossed your stuff? BTW Loveland is my favorite city. I was in the Big Thompson canyon the day before the deadliest flood in U.S. history. Amen. ![eusa_pray.gif](upload://666dNZBTjxv415U6VjmA9ZydFQN.gif)

ProInspect


Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Are there any inspectors out there that disagree?


NAHI recently secretly changed its Code of Ethics (and I use the term loosely) to permit these sort of bribes. ASHI, to their credit forbids it.

Yes, when ASHI is right I don't mind saying so.

Nick


Originally Posted By: rspriggs
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ekartal wrote:
Russell,

Did they say why they tossed your stuff? BTW Loveland is my favorite city. I was in the Big Thompson canyon the day before the deadliest flood in U.S. history. Amen. ![eusa_pray.gif](upload://666dNZBTjxv415U6VjmA9ZydFQN.gif)

ProInspect


You are the 2nd person who has told me they were there the day before - - -any campers would have been recycled into fish food in THAT flood!

"Regional" did not want "stuff" "laying around".
That's as good an explanation as I was going to get. I heard the message!

Russ Spriggs,
Colorado Chapter Coordinator
www.AceHomeInspections.org



Originally Posted By: rmorris
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Go Nick,


It appears that the concierge program has only been to siphon more money from inspectors and the buying public


Originally Posted By: jpeck
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jfarsetta wrote:
Its funny how the program (doesn't) always work as intended.


Actually it does work as intended.

As long as you realize it is intended to line the pockets of the real estate agents and brokers.

Think about it. 4 HI companies paying $xxxx to list with them, and then not getting 100% guaranteed referrals from that office. Of course it is working as intended. ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)


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Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: ekartal
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I understand that Century 21 owns US Inspect. Do any of you that don’t work for US Inspect get referrals from Century 21 agents? Just curious.


Erol Kartal


Originally Posted By: rspriggs
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Erol-


Interestingly, C21 in both Loveland and Estes Park have HI brochures right out there for the world to see; not tucked away at all.


I’ve gotten biz from EP, but not LL, so far.


Maybe it’s a difference between franchised and independent offices?


Russ Spriggs,
Colorado Chapter Coordinator
www.AceHomeInspections.org
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Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Jerry,


Concierge does not guarantee an inspector who pays 100% of anything. Realtors still referr who they want, whether they are part of Concierge of not.


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Joe Farsetta

Illigitimi Non Carborundum
"Dont let the bastards grind you down..."

Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Joe,


That's a given, otherwise, you would not have four (in my example) companies paying to get in.

Now read that entire post and see if you get it.


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Jerry Peck
South Florida

Originally Posted By: rray
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Without seeing the fine print in the Concierge advertising contracts that currently exist, I have no comment concerning that type of advertising at the moment.


In my own situation, about two years ago I was asked by Coldwell Banker out here to join their Concierge program, and I considered it. After reading the fine print and going over the contract with my attorney, I declined. They basically wanted me to turn control of my company over to them. Couldn't do that. In discussing the situation with Coldwell Banker, they said that they couldn't delete the offending paragraph but that "the paragraph has never been enforced." Well, I didn't want to be first. I believe at the time that the cost was $100 a month, but I don't remember for sure.


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One home at a time.

Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Jerry,


Got it ![icon_redface.gif](upload://f7DX2EWhmUfsDapWaYT3oJHMCj1.gif)


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Joe Farsetta

Illigitimi Non Carborundum
"Dont let the bastards grind you down..."

Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Arizona State Board of Technical Registration came out in support of NACHI’s position:


http://www.nachi.org/arizonabacksnachi.htm


![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)


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Nick Gromicko
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I much prefer email to private messages.

Originally Posted By: dharris
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Nick


I was one of 40 plus inspectors , [no nachi members were present that i’m aware of] that attended the meeting to get this change , should’t the credit go to the az inspectors regardless of what org they belong to, that took the day off work to get this change?


Originally Posted By: tallen
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Thanks to Dan ,and all of the HI’s in AZ who helped to get this legislation passed. icon_biggrin.gif


I have noticed that some offices still do not allow me to leave flyers at there offices as I am not on their list. Is this a violation of the BTR's decision? Or does these offices have a loophole

What was the date this was to be enforced?


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I have put the past behind me,
where , however, it now sits, making rude remarks.

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Originally Posted By: rray
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It doesn’t say anything about advertising with the concierge programs though.


The program that I was asked to participate in here used the word "advertising" and never promised any referrals, direct or indirect. I would simply be advertising.

Until there is some agreement on what is advertising and what are direct and indirect referrals, the concierge programs will remain strong.