Soooo……yes?
If I were an Ohio Home Inspector, (I’m in a neighboring Indiana county and I’ve considered it) I should put my clients at risk and overlook a potential fire hazard because, technically, I don’t know any better?
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It was funny
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I think that you should protect your client. Just say that in my experience you need an electrical expert look at this panel. I want you to protect your client. All I am saying is Ohio limits what you can do and say.
I had heard many cases of how Ohio has become so FU and this is another! The people that need the protection the most are the ones that are screwed and the businesses are protected. Businesses can afford to hire the best and hire others to make sure they get the best. Consumers just can’t afford to do that and yet Ohio chooses to let the consumers get screwed!
And yet another example of how FU Ohio is! The tradespeople who do the work day after day and have the experience and supposed education to do it right are not even allowed to inspect the work.
Pull your head out of your ass and read the entire post!
And yet another DA example of Ohio law. According to this description all those Inspectors can do is open the panel, take a picture, and report “Yep there are breakers and wiring in there! If you want to know anything else hire MP since you are not allowed to hire an Electrician to inspect it!”. How frigging stupid is that!
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To use your phrase above you are comparing apples to oranges! 
As I read MP’s post the answer is yes they should disregard it and let the circuit burn if that happens! 
Because the electrician most likely not licensed (his boss probably is) and has never tested his competency on the NEC.
Ohio just makes you prove your competency.
We have had a higher standard for 50 years. If you started in the business after 1973 maybe you should have verified what you could and couldn’t do.
That may never happen - that said. You can do an electrical inspection without performing one in violation of the law.
That’s my point. It is ALL in what you say.
Thank you. That’s what I was looking for.
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I disputed with a seasoned licensed electrician about re-identifying ungrounded white conductors. He insisted that Allen County Indiana exempted it, when, in fact, it was because the building department is not allowed to remove panel covers on the final. So, what constitutes an “expert”?
Yeap, which is why I posted someone needs to get to the bottom of this with the OHIB. He is basically stating most inspectors in Ohio are breaking the law, because I just don’t see how you can inspect the electrical system without inspecting items that are part of the code. It’s just not possible. The code part applies to other systems as well, not just electrical. To me, a code inspection is an exhaustive inspection that verifies code compliance in full. Home inspectors, while inspecting some parts, do not verify full code compliance. For example, we don’t perform load calculations, however, if we see a 10,000 sqft house with 100amp panel and everything in the house is electrical, how the hell can we not call that out? MP will yell that’s doing a code inspection.
IMO, what needs to happen is the licensed states need to define what a “code inspection” is. Mine does not. I did not see where Ohio does this. So therefore nothing stops someone like MP from interpreting a home inspection as a “code inspection”.
My state says:
“Home inspectors shall not determine compliance with regulations, codes, laws or ordinances”. That, to me, is somewhat vague and opens things up to interpretation.
Am I determining “code” compliance when I put in my report the stairs should all be even within 3/8"? According to MP, I am. Am I determining code compliance when I state the vent connector is sloped toward the boiler instead of toward the chimney at 1/4" a foot? According to MP, I am. What the hell can we then do as HI? 
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(8) Licensees shall not represent a determination of compliance with Ohio residential, mechanical, plumbing, or electrical codes, specifically the existence of serious hazards as defined in rule 4101:8-2-01 of the Administrative Code. Licensees may recommend a client seek further evaluation and repair or remediation of suspected safety hazards by a certified or licensed professional. Such recommendations shall be in the home inspection report.
That probably varies in each state.
You could make a public records request for the last (Nov 29, 2022) OHIB meeting where I told them what they could and could not do. With their staff attorney present and their legal counsel from the AG’s office.
Mr. Parks are You a licensed home inspector in the state of Ohio ???
Well that’s a contradiction.
So, an Ohio licensed home inspector can identify a safety hazard but not a serious hazard even if the hazard is one in the same?
Is this a safety hazard or a serious hazard?
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