Don’t count on it, Roy! Look what’s happening on other threads with members posts.
**A lot of NACHI members don’t mention NACHI on their websites. Since forming the SoCal NACHI Chapter I’ve been looking at local area NACHI member websites. They list CREIA, NAHI and ASHI, but not NACHI. I’m assuming they joined NACHI for the internet benefits and nothing else.
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I admit the internet stuff is great (I’ve never been on another inspector forum… and with 23+ years experience!!!) but the certification and discipline seems weak. Why is it no one wants to talk about it? Why are people rushing to NACHI? Must be the easy certification and internet.
Hell, I still have only an “applicants” status but get called by the professional types mentioned above as well as do litigation work, training, environmental work (being recommended by the only enviromental clinic in the Maritimes), energy audits (last was a large church). I don’t need to be certified to get work but since it’s coming (probably by way of gov’t- the best way), I’ve kept my toe in the water with CAHPI. Presently been asked to have a look at the national defect recognition course as delivered here; I corrected the instructors many times in the 3 day session!!
The NACHI membership has been capped in a free society…no one has responded to my comments on that. WHY???
Have you ever been to a Canadian Conference and seen the cost Have you taken many Courses from the Canadian associations and seen the cost . I am sure the cost for the Atlantic CARPI is about the same as the rest of Canada .
Are you really satisfied how you are treated I know little CAHPI information comes down to the Membership in my province .
The NACHI Toronto Conference 4 days cost $99:00 for all inspectors For the CAHPI conference about $475:00 members and for me $650:00 and it is only two days.
NACHI looked at renting chairs and the found they could by them cheaper most people took home as many as they could carry I got two.
Try and find out how many CMIs there are in Canada too simple and the returns for CMI are fantastic . Try and find out who is National Certified In Canada . Not allowed and the Cost is huge $1,166;00 for me and the returns will be just like Whistler ZIP.another huge Cost and big flop.
Did You hear about the NACHI conference from CAHPI I do not think so.
They did not even have the courtesy to reply to my offer for a free booth.
I spoke to the CAHPI Pres and sent him an email as well as posting it to the NACHI many times .
Fair play is only from NACHI not from CAHPI …
CMI is the only way to go
Hey Brian, Your obviously an intelligent person so why is it so hard for you to understand the benefits of NACHI and why it’s so successful?
One reason is many different people with all levels of experience can come here on somewhat common ground and unite together as an industry. This organisation serves many of us on varied amounts of expertise and most don’t even brag about how knowledgeable they are every time they post, their just happy to help when they can.
Brains says The NACHI membership has been capped in a free society…no one has responded to my comments on that. WHY??? .
You a none NACHI member wonder why you would expect an answer .
You belong to an association that continues to ignore its own members needs and wants. NACHI does for all all the time .
I will give you my thoughts on why the membership has been Capped its called marketing .
NACHI is very good at that.
What with Retiring and some leaving the industry NACHI is just under the CAP.
NACHI is straight up and truthfull about the CAP.
CAHPI/Ontario has had a CAP on RHIs for years they just do not publicize it . They still Maintain it at about 221 RHIs
**“Everybody’s time is so valuable today, who has the time to jump through hoops,” **
This is the problem with North American culture today!!! The advertisers are telling everyone what stuff they have to have in order to be “fulfilled”. Anything else and you’ve failed and are not worthy!! They’ve got you running till you don’t know who you were. They dictate! You listen! They get you through your kids and may be spouse. Dig in, be someone you want to be; not a clone of the advertiser’s ideal consumer. Spend the time with your kids; they need it, not new this or that. Put time into your own education and mental development. Listen to Lou Dobbs on CNN ocassionally about the decline of the American middle class (this from a Canadian???). It’ll all start to make sense in a while.
They like it when families split up today. The wife, in many cases has a good job and can support herself and kids in good style with alimony. They love it- two single households to supply appliances for instead of one (hey, an extra house, too!!!). If they could do it without running afoul of your churches and gov’t, they’d support divorce proceedings with funding.
My area has been having an incredible new housing/apartment/condo boom since 1996 or so…but the province’s population has been essentially steady for the last 10 or so years. Where are all the bodies coming from to buy these up? A few years ago, I took some contract work from an insurance company and was amazed at the # of recently divorced women that I ran across in my work areas. They had just bought a house that was not in this company’s database so they got an immediate inspection. I thought there was a divorce epidemic going on.
"even newbies have a better chance for education at NACHI."
Education on the web without performance tests lacks any credibility. How much will be retained. I don’t see that many different posters here, considering there are 10,000 members. The boards are dominated by about 100 or fewer with the odd question coming in. So every other certified inspector knows it all. I don’t think so…been in the building industry somewhere for about 33 years and I still learn everyday (or it hasn’t been a good day!)
If those quotes were from you, then you’re on the treadmill. You say time is so valuable because nobody has any today. Exactly like Lou dobbs has been saying- two jobs in a family and still falling behind so we have to work more. The biggest way that North American efficiency is increasing is by putting in more hours at work!!! Where is the 2 -3 -4 day work week we once thought we’d get by the year 2000 or so???
The other stuff is a bit of a general rant towards societal breakdown and having another 15 year old kid killed by a handgun at a Toronto school this week. When I went to school, all I had to worry about for a year or so was a pretty big guy I had knocked out at a school dance after he “didn’t like my face” and attacked me. I really didn’t want a re-match. Kids today? A seven year old brought a loaded gun to school this week some where in the US. Is no one else seeing this stuff or trying to understand it??
Brian, have you considered a vacation, just a thought. You sound like you could use one, no offence at all to you but you seem to have some underlining anger.
I cannot answer for other ASHI inspectors, as far as I’m concerened I say heck yea, as long as you do not name the inspector.
From my expereince you will likley see that an ASHI inspector will take that information to better himself, share his mistakes with other ASHI inspectors, and apply it on his next inspection, opposed to what i’ve seen of NACHI members where many NACHI inspectors cry foul, and believe everthing stated about NACHI by other non -nachi inspectors is part of some non-existant right winged conspiricy :roll: :roll:
Internet fabrication - also has been attributed to several other political bodies, but originated from a completely unsubstantiated list complied with no evidence:
I believe that, and can state that all of the AZ NACHI guys and gal that I met do not fall in that category.
You do have a few that tend to believe " the one that complain the most and hollers the loudest are the ones that will be heard" that are speaking for you and your org on a public forum, weather you like it or not.
Don’t hold your breath, from what I’ve seen it’s been the same public embarrassment of OUR profession for the past five plus years, I will state that it looked there was some hope when busshy dissapeared for a couple months last year, the common answer has always been,
" It’s a learning experience"
Guess maybe some day some body will learn someting :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Dan, I think we have to take it for what it is, we all know it’s not perfect but most of us do get something from it, as long as that something is positive than we win, if not, then we should move on.
**"NACHI is straight up and truthfull about the CAP. ** CAHPI/Ontario has had a CAP on RHIs for years they just do not publicize it . They still Maintain it at about 221 RHIs"
I joined CAHPI Atlantic about 4-5 years and have attended 80-85% of the meetings. The present chapter president for the past 3 years and I have known each other since 1970 when we had university dormitory rooms about 30 feet apart. There has never been a mention of a cap in our group. If anything we suffer from too little income from our 50 members at $400/yr membership fees. I suggested a $100 fee raise in the second to last meeting but that was poo-pooed!! Some people don’t seem to want to pay (even a measly $100- 1/3 of 1 inspection) to maintain or improve the association or themselves, for that matter. Always looking for the freebie or low cost, low quality items!!!
But capped we are not!! Just did a web count of increased membership in the last 2-3 years. We have 50 members with varying levels of inspector status. I believe 28 or 56% were admitted within the last 3 years:
PEI went from 2 to 5 (150% increase)
Newfoundland from 2 to 8 (300%)
New Brunswick from 4 to 13 (225%)
Nova Scotia is about the same due to member losses (oversupplied market in Halifax) - 4 new members (3 new rural/small town of which 1 is former NACHI; 1 bought existing Halifax business) -In total, I estimate the number of operating HI’s in the province at 75 -90; some of the others affliliated with NACHI, others having no affiliations
The former NACHI member is now at the PHI level after 2 years membership and is working towards RHI. From our website:
**REGISTERED **Member **(RHI) **a member who is a practicing home inspector that has successfully completed all the qualifying requirements defined by CAHPI-Atlantic and is in good standing with the Association. Registered Home Inspector and RHI are reserved and protected for the exclusive use of CAHPI. Qualifying requirements:
a technical background in construction or a thorough working knowledge of the same*
completion of the *Defect Recognition and Reporting Course *
successful completion of the certification exam
written reports must be verified as having met specific quality standards
the completion of 250 paid inspections performed to CAHPI standards
attendance at a *minimum of three *CAHPI-Atlantic meetings within the membership year
**PROVISIONAL **Member **(PHI)**a member who is a practicing home inspector that is actively working toward completing all of the eligibility requirements for REGISTERED membership. Qualifying requirements:
a technical background in construction or a thorough working knowledge of the same*
actively working on registered membership
attendance at a *minimum of three *CAHPI-Atlantic meetings within the membership year
**APPLICANT **Member
a member who is working toward certification. Applicant members have not yet passed all written examinations and may be at various stages in working toward the 250 paid inspections requirement. Qualifying requirements:
actively working toward meeting the requirements of the above levels
Applicant Members must also attend at least three of the CAHPI-Atlantic meetings within the membership year
*Applicant members are not allowed to advertise their CAHPI membership or use the CAHPI logo *.
*may include courses from Community Colleges, Vocational School Trade Courses, provincially recognized building construction courses, courses/training provided by various home inspection franchises, and courses from recognized training centers such as Carson-Dunlop in Toronto, etc.