My customer is the one who pays me. But Michael I view business in its simplest terms. I could care less who pays me and who my client is. The inspection is the inspection regardless who hands me the check. So if you hand me the check your roof is good and if the insurance company gives me the money its bad?
This is one of the best professions because no matter who pays me the findings are always the same. It’s that freaking easy to me…
I have never said or suggested omitting items or not being forthright with the information will save your clients “money”.
I only said when you ad items to the traditional 4 point inspection the Home owner is likely to get screwed.
I give them what they ask. My first form came right from State Farm.
These mini home inspections are asinine and only give the insurance companies more reasons to tax the Client.
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The insurance companies do not pay most of us the homeowners do.
Anyone who just follows along and does what citizens or any else asks and does not interpret the wind mitigation form for themselves is a yesman.
I am also a yesman but guess what?
It is to those who pay me.
I stand up for and do what I can to help those who pay me.
I defend them against those who do not pay me. I and not the insurance companies employee and they do nothing to benefit me.
When they start paying me to do inspections I will gladly do it their way. Until then they will accept it the way the OIR deems.
I am still looking for the letter that talks about the insurance companies having to pay for reinspections.
If anyone has it please send it to me.
Mine are as well but guess what?
When I have the option of creating a form I create one that stands the best chance of helping my clients and yet will still be accepted all the time.
I do not write a form that has much more opportunities to cost my clients money.
If the insurance company would like me to create a form no problem. Just pay me and I will get to it. Then they just have to tell the clients this is the form you must use. Simple enough?
If each insurance company told the clients this is our form and this is what we want then we could all charge accordingly. ThaT IS NOT THE WAY IT IS AND EACH INSPECTOR WRITES THEIR OWN FORM SO i WILL CONTINUE TO DO IT that way until I must do it another.
sry bout the caps. As of now I will no longer apologize for that. From this point on all should know that if you see me typing in all caps it was probably an accident do to my poor typing skills.
Thank you Nick!
Quick run to the mirror there’s another brown spot on your nose 
Typical everyone else, seems to type just fine, but Meeker does it the Meeker way. Did you realize typing in caps is considered rude and/or yelling?
You certainly are ignorant.
Yes dear…
That is why I used to appoligize all the time. Guess what?
I think that people who are offended by it are complete and total morons.
I get rilled up and when my finger slips it hits caps lock. It is not worth my time to go back and change because some pampas a-s Internet geek is offended.
Anything else you need help understanding?
I learned it here from dealing with idiots like you over the last few years. What is funny to me is how you have such a big mouth when you are a few hundred miles away. You were nothing but polite the last time we met. Maybe some day we will see each other again. I’ll bet you are nothing but polite then as well.
I am not arguing with you. I am trying to understand.
In my state, we do home inspections. It’s a thing where people who are buying a house pay $300 to $500 to have me look at it and report on its condition. I keep used house salesmen at arms length and do not pay them for referrals under any circumstances.
I don’t know what these $75 things are that you guys do or how they are used by insurance salesmen and consumers. (It’s my fault, I suppose, since I have half of Florida on “Ignore” to avoid useless “gee, look at me” or “everybody should be like me” or “I hate Nick” crap.)
Are you saying that the home owner and his agent are conspiring in some manner and using these $75 thingies to obtain cheaper rates than they are entitled to?
If that is the case, I don’t see an ethical issue in paying for a referral. The ethical issue is between the salesman and his own employer by taking it. Since this $75 thing is a service to the owner … and it provides factual information that he can use to get a certain insurance rate … who cares how I came about getting his business as long as there is no conflict of interest (— as there is when an inspector and used house salesman conspire to sell a house)?
Good point. I argued the negative marketing connotation as opposed to the ethics violation issue. I believe that in marketing, when you try to buy work for $20, it implies something which causes you lose more work from it than you gain from it. You just can’t easily quantify the work you lose from it, so it tricks you into thinking its succeeding.
It’s also why I don’t like this double-your-money-back marketing nonsense. It implies something which causes you lose more work from it than you gain from it. You just can’t easily quantify the work you lose from it, so it tricks you into thinking its succeeding.
About 1/3 of all marketing done by home inspectors UN-sells them from a net perspective.
I agree that, from a marketing point of view, it is a lame thing to do.
Great, thanks. Stuff like this proves the need of a group of Florida home inspectors coming together for the betterment of the profession.
Sorry to hear this Mike.
Try offering the exceptional service, not kick backs.
Legitimate agents are getting burned by unreliable reports and inspectors that are all about customer service until they get the check. Then it’s sorry, can’t help you.
When an agent suggests a referral fee, I refuse. However, I do comp an occasional inspection or reinspect fee for their ‘hard cases’. I make it about Team Building.
You learned to be ignorant here from dealing with idiots? Really? Try looking the word up.
As for being polite, I am, and will be in the future. I am just tired of your making Fl inspectors/contractors and fellow Nachi member look stupid.
You have a right to your opinion but take it too far when you insult anyone who refuses to see your point of view(including your lack of internet manners). This is the sole reason I dislike you, and your idiotic statements. It is not what you say but how you say it that I totally disagree with.
As for some day seeing me again, seriously? I have no desire to see you ever, once was enough. BTW, you were awful quiet in that meeting.
I did not feel as though you were arguing and yes it has been known to happen.
I personally do not care what the other guy does ethical or not.
Quiet you must be kidding. I talked to a great many people there and not one of them was a pri-k to my face. Everyone I came into contact was nice and friendly enough.
You are a loudmouth Internet punk with no balls. You kiss the insurance agencies a-ses just to get their referrals. I am quite surprised that you are actually a G.C. because you are such a suck a-s and not many G.C. I know are like that.
Nope they were all laughing behind your back.
Now, how do you know how I am with insurance companies? Just because I agree with others on similar industry standards, you believe that it has to do with insurance companies and garnering favor? You obviously do not understand me or what I do.
I am not a GC. I am a residential contractor, I am a home builder. There is a huge difference.
Again you do not know what you are writing about. Keep the insults coming.