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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Supervised by whom Dave?


Please don't say some bozo that bought the NHIE answers for $15 like that PHIC mentor who was featured as totally incompetent in the recent TV show.

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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Stay on topic.


Looks like we agree again. ASHI's 250 are unsupervised.

But what I really like is when you said that if it is unverifiable it doesn't count... So when my toilet-flusher (inspection helper) went to my file cabinet, wrote down a list of 250 inspections that I performed, turned the list into ASHI, ASHI asked to see 5 of them, he then turned in copies of 5 inspections I performed, and ASHI issued him full membership and to this day... he is a full ASHI member with ASHI logo use...then according to you... ASHI's requirements (since verified only by the word of the person applying for full membership) are bogus.

Wow. I wonder if we agree on other things. What is your favorite color? Mine is blue.

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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Hee hee. Off topic again. icon_lol.gif

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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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The certificate the reporter mentioned was not issued by NACHI and the “stack of claims” he mentioned were against an ASHI member, not a NACHI member.

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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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The reporter couldn’t cheat on ASHI’s entrance requirements… ASHI has none.

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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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ASHI does not verify the 250 or even the 5 inspection reports before issuing full memership and logo usage. So I agree with you… their full membership requirements are bogus.


What is your favorite color... we agree on so much I'm betting it's blue.

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Originally Posted By: Dave Bottoms
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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Furthermore the reporter could have joined ASHI by sending in $$$. That’s it.


He couldn't fulfill ALL of http://www.nachi.org/membership.htm at NACHI which is why we turned down the reporter's application.

Furthermore under NACHI's http://www.nachi.org/code_of_ethics.htm
section 1.10 he would have had to have applied for and received an E&O insurance policy (PA requires E&O). As an ASHI Candidate he was not required to.

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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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OK. I’ll conceed that OAHI’s application requirements exceed NACHI’s…only because I don’t know what OAHI’s requirements are. But every association… even SPREI’s exceeds ASHIs. ASHI has none. ASHI is a diploma mill.


I will agree with you about OAHI.

Jeeze, I'll bet we part our hair on the same side.

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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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I agree. And if the reporter chose to buy the NHIE answers on ebay for $15 and pass the easier NHIE he could have joined the ranks of the ASHI inspector he showed to be incompetent in his TV report… LEGITIMATELY.


But he could NOT join NACHI without committing fraud.

Good point. We agree again.

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Originally Posted By: rwand
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Whether the inspector passed the Ashi exam or not is irrelevent he can still start inspecting without being qualified.


Raymond Wand
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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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exchanges I’ve ever had on any message board.


Thanks Dave.

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Originally Posted By: eporter
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Never mind.

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Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Quote:
I've got stacks of claims... home owners suing home inspectors. It shows there are probably a lot of unqualified inspectors out there... "


If I may interject for a second here Dave, thought I would be able to shed some light on this subject since I have first hand knowledge of just how many claims there are against home inspectors in the state of PA.

There are a big fat.....0.....that is with a "z".

If you would like, call the attorney general for yourself, I did. The fellow that was the catalyst for that little "circus", just happens to be Gary Gazda of NAHI. Gary if the caped crusader of consumer protection....unfortunately Gary forgot to tell everyone that...there are no claims against home inspectors...he makes it up as he goes! ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

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Originally Posted By: jbushart
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. Create a means to convince the media that your competitor is a danger to the consumer.


The media, in turn, convinces the public for just enough time to stir the legislators. Then the legislature does your dirty work for you by creating laws that limit the number of people who can enter the profession, ridding you of your competition.

Meanwhile, the consumer continues business as usual and wondering what all the fuss is about.

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Originally Posted By: rwand
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Yes I would like to see the stats that Nachi members are sued more than ASHI, CAHPI or OAHI members. For instance I know that OAHI last year had something like a 10 percent (internal) complaint rate. That is very high in my opinion when you only have an approximate total of 600 members total last year.


Also remember many complaints do not find their way to the associations.


As to the exam, Ashi, and Oahi both take your money and you can begin inspecting. I guess it all depends who is telling the story. To hear one person telling the stories Nachi is a big threat to the Canadian Home Inspection industry, but has never provided proof. Kinda like Chicken Little isn't it?

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

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The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905

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Originally Posted By: rwand
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This article appeared in the Orangeville Banner on June 7/05.


Note the first paragraph under Recommendations.

Buying a home is probably one of the most expensive and important decisions you?ll ever make. But unlike many of life?s other major purchases, when it comes to buying a house there?s no such think as a money-back guarantee.

Once you buy a home, you?re on your own to maintain and repair it, anticipate problems ? and pay the bills.

Hiring a professional home inspector can help you find out as much as possible about a home?s condition, habitability and safety before you sing on the dotted line.

To help you make more informed decisions ? and keep any unpleasant surprises to a minimum ? Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) has several tips to help you find and select a home inspector, including:

RECOMMENDATIONS

First, ask friends of family members who have recently purchased a home for a recommendation, or check association websites, the yellow pages or housing trade magazines to find a qualified home inspector in your area.
Make sure the home inspector is an experienced, full-time inspector, not a renovator or contractor with an inspection business on the side.

THE RIGHT PEOPLE
? Look for inspectors who belong to a provincial association and determine if they intend to meet the standards of competency which are currently being developed by the Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors.

REFERENCES
? Ask for three references, and call them to see whether they were satisfied with the service they received.

? Choose only home inspectors who are not associated with any other construction or housing trade, and who therefore don?t carry out repairs or improvements themselves.

? Make sure the home inspector does not solicit, receive or give referral fees.

? Ensure that the inspection is carried out during the day as night time inspections may miss vital components of the exterior of the house.

INFORMATION
? Find out where you can get more information about the inspector and his or her firm, such as the firms? web-site address or industry association.
Finally, ask what you receive once the inspection is complete, and when you can expect to receive it.

A professional inspector should provide written report reviewing every major exterior and interior system and component in the home, usually within hours 24 hours of the inspection.

CONTACT
For more information tact CMBC at 800-668-2& visit the website www.cmhc.ca.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

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The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905

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Registered Home Inspector (R.H.I.)

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Originally Posted By: rwand
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Courses


http://www.oahi.com/inspectors/m-courseinfo.asp


Joining the Ontario Association of Home Inspectors (OAHI)
http://www.oahi.com/PUBLIC/soyouwanttobeaninspector.asp

Judge for yourself.

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

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The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905

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NACHI Member
Registered Home Inspector (R.H.I.)

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Originally Posted By: rwand
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Mr. Bottoms quotes:


Hmmm… what happens when ASHI calls the clients listed on those five inspections to verify the inspector did them? At OAHI you have to send in a complete list and they decide who to call at random. Pretty hard to line up a couple of hundred folks to lie for you. How many clients does NACHI call to verify the inspector isn’t making up the list? Oh yeah, you don’t even have to send in a list, only an affidavit. Man, that sure makes things easy, especially for those no-nuthin’ reporters.


A couple of hundred inspections? Seems someone doesn't understand the process. Makes you wonder if he actually knows what he is talking about, eh?

OAHI requires that when you have chosen your report system and are ready to start your business, you must send a copy of two reports of two inspections done by you personally, for verification. If you are not yet insured, these inspections should not be fee paid, and can be done on your house, your neighbour?s or a relative?s. Another two reports are required when you apply for RHI status (selected from a submitted LOG of 100 completed inspections).

The initial verification fee is $42.80 ($40.00 + GST), please enclose your cheque in this amount. When you are ready to upgrade to RHI status, please submit a LOG of your last 100 reports plus the sum of $53.50 ($50.00 + GST) representing the report verification fee and the RHI upgrade/Certificate fee.

Don't forget to send the money honey. Ca ching $$$ Ca ching $$$

One other condition if it is found out by the report verifier you are not walking the roof or carrying a 32' ladder you will fail.

Lets keep the facts straight and please don't let your bias get in the way of reporting factual information. Remember Editors have a duty to report accurately the facts! ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)

Nick if you want verification of what Mr. Bottoms states, just ask me, I'll ensure your get the straight goods!

Raymond Wand
Alton, ON

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The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905

http://www.raymondwand.ca
NACHI Member
Registered Home Inspector (R.H.I.)