NCA fee announcement

This is from CAHPI . Please note Artical 2 (2)

BY-LAW No. 1

A By-law relating generally to the conduct of the affairs of the

**CANADIAN ASSOCIATION OF HOME AND **

**PROPERTY INSPECTORS **

Article 1 PREAMBLE

The purpose and effect of this Bylaw is to amend and where applicable repeal all existing Bylaws of the Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors.

Article 2 MISSION AND OBJECTS
The mission and objects of the Corporation include:
(1) representing and promoting the interests of Canadian home and property inspector provincial/regional organizations and their individual members;
(2) establishing and maintaining the status of the professional home and property inspectors with consumers, governments, all stakeholders across Canada and all associated agencies and professionals across Canada;

Roy,
And so far dead silence has been the sudden reply.
does this mean I asked a bad question???:shock:

No the word I have received is that they are now in discussion on how to get more to sign up for the conference.
Sounds like there will soon be a slight change in plans.
They have been getting feed back that many are very disapointed and the attendance could be a disaster.
… Cookie

The pricing will likely resemble the National Cert. price structure … the conference price will drop as the big day approaches.

I had a good laugh when I saw the pricing for spouses.

Also $600 for non members is ridiculous considering 3 days at the Nachi conference only cost $99!

Be still my heart! :mrgreen:

http://www.bookahomeinspection.com/

Brian has developed and currently teaches a training program for perspective Home Inspectors in Ontario.

http://www.irun.com//templates/real_estate/classic_01/images/splash_33_bottom.gif

Another inspection school that likely doesn’t meet the National requirement course.

Shouldn’t all inspection schools be college accredited, rather then the proliferation of inspector mills?

Correction Mr. Quackenbush the current number of RHI is well below 400, as a matter of fact its somewhere between 220 and 250. Now where do you suppose a Director of OAHI would get a number of 400 RHI’s?

http://www.gtainspections.com/page6.html

If Mr. Quackenbush a RHI and National Cert. holder can’t get the info correct what else being advertised is false?

I am not sure he could be correct on his figures. I was number 313 I think

Quote: I am one of fewer than 400 Inspectors who have achieved this designation in the 12 year history of the OAHI.
I have also completed the Humber College Home Inspection Certificate program. – one of the most thorough training programs available. --------------------------------------------------------------------This does not say much for OAHI in 12 years they started with about 100 in 1993~ and picked up about 70 ~ when they joined with PACHI. They now have 217 RHIs~ that tells me that 183 have left the association.
About 45% are no longer members of OAHI. In 12 years they have increased the number of RHIs 217-170=47 that is an increase of about 4 a year .
This confirms what many have been saying all along it is a closed door association.
I sure am glad I saw the light and helped to bring NACHI to Canada Join Date: 8/27/03 to about 1,000 members.
Long live NACHI… Cookie …an ex OAHI member

Roy

I believe he is referring to his status of RHI, its misleading to suggest the numbers are higher than they are. In my book thats misleading advertising.

Besides in 12 years there are only 220-250 tops, thats not a record to be proud of. It certainly is not a democratic association but rather a dictatorship.

[FONT=BRADDON]Attention: Professional Home Inspectors[/FONT]
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[FONT=BRADDON]Have you mailed your application for the[/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON] National Certification Program?[/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON]National Certificate Holder is a nationally recognized credential in addition to other qualifications such as the Registered Home Inspector (RHI).[/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON] The National Certificate Holder credential will be portable from province to province. All home inspection professionals in Canada[/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON] are eligible to apply for certification regardless of affiliation. National Certificate Holders are currently recognized by[/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON] Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) and other stakeholders across the country.[/FONT][FONT=BRADDON]****[/FONT]
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[FONT=BRADDON] [/FONT]****[FONT=BRADDON]All applications received [/FONT][FONT=BRADDON]before[/FONT][FONT=BRADDON] [/FONT]****[FONT=BRADDON]December 31, 2007 ……[/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON]1) Applicant will be required to pass [/FONT][FONT=BRADDON]one[/FONT][FONT=BRADDON] test inspection[/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON]2) 2007 current fees ($500.00 Associations with Equivalency or $850.00 Associations without Equivalency) – [/FONT]****[FONT=BRADDON]GST extra[/FONT]
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[FONT=BRADDON] 2008 CHANGES
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: All applications received [/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON]after[/FONT]**[FONT=BRADDON] [/FONT]****[FONT=BRADDON]December 31, 2007 ……[/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON]1) Applicant will be required to pass [/FONT][FONT=BRADDON]two[/FONT][FONT=BRADDON] test inspections[/FONT]
**[FONT=BRADDON]**2) 2008 fees increase ($800.00 Associations with Equivalency or $1,150.00 Associations without Equivalency) – [/FONT]****[FONT=BRADDON]GST extra[/FONT]
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[FONT=BRADDON]For more information about the program visit the National Certification web site today[/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON][size=4][FONT=BRADDON]www.nca-anc.com[/FONT]](http://www.nca-anc.com/)[/size][/FONT][FONT=BRADDON]****[/FONT]
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[FONT=BRADDON] Download your application now![/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON]Click this link:[/FONT]****[FONT=BRADDON] [/FONT]****[FONT=BRADDON]http://www.nca-anc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=39[/FONT]](http://www.nca-anc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=39)[FONT=BRADDON]****[/FONT]
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**[FONT=BRADDON]**Questions about the program call 1-888-748-2244 [/FONT]
[FONT=BRADDON]or email:[/FONT]****[FONT=BRADDON] [/FONT][FONT=BRADDON]info@nca-anc.com[/FONT][FONT=BRADDON]****[/FONT]
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Need I say anything more?

I thought you might get a chuckle out of this. I just got off the floor myself.:wink:

Rogues Gallery

http://www.nca-anc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=32

Which one do you think is the leader?
Which ones do you think appointed one another or tested one another?
Which ones do you think have a conflict of interest?
Which one abused the by-laws, his office and used his position without cause by reporting inspectors who used CHI to ASTTBC only to be found out as a liar, and a rube?

DAMN! I just about got my $850. saved up too! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ](*,)

I do not remember where there continuing dues mentioned when this first came out .
How much where the dues each year ,
and how much are the dues at this time?

**[FONT=BRADDON]**So the second batch of inspectors after Dec 2007 will be better qualified than the first batch because they have to complete a further test inspection and pay more. Lovely!

I think this shows that the NCA is coming up short in being self sustaining/supporting. The fee increase and other costs say it all.
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I looked at some of Bill mullens old posts .
The information given does not seam to Balance .
Last February he said " At the moment we have enough people qualified (not all have their certificates yet) to do 7 -10,000 inspections a month and there are enough additional inspectors now in the program to do another 20,000 to 30,000 per month " I find it strange if they have so many already why are the names not listed .
Bill also said he is all but retired and has three Home Inspectors working for him " I have a very successful business with three employees who do most of the work. " well they are not listed on his web site and they are not listed on the OAHI site . I would be disappointed if the CAHPI director has employed Non OAHI/CAHPI home inspectors . I must have missed the very important announcement that was to come out last March. " within one month you can expect to see major announcements of support from some very large non-governmental national organizations. "
If any one can find it I would love to read it .
Bill stated last February they had enough HIs to do 10,000 inspections a month Now when I see 10,000 inspections being done by 100 HIs they are sure going to be busy. Especially when a large part of the “100” are retired and do not do inspections " now a few hundred "even if the 100 is correct they will be doing 5 inspections a day 5 days a week . They must be fantastic Home inspectors.
There are many more of Bill Mullens posts that just seem a bit incorrect.
… Cookie
http://www.bluewaterhomeinspection.com/index.html Quote: Originally Posted by mkyriacou Bill

I don’t believe that you get paid for this. What I believe is that you have an interest in the NCP as certificate holder #00000001.

You know very well that your cert. is useless unless every HI has one.

Good luck with it.
Mario:

I don’t need that certificate or any other one. It’s great to have #NCA00001 because it was the first. However, it won’t bring me one dollar of income because I am all but retired now. I have a very successful business with three employees who do most of the work.

I don’t care whether or not every inspector has one. All I care is that I am among a group of (now a few hundred) inspectors who have chosen to avail themselves of the first truly valid and recognized National Certification in Canada.

I’m very proud of that and the work I have done to make it available to everyone. It doesn’t adversely affect me one little bit if no more NACHI members sign up. It’s their loss and a big gain of more work for those who chose to apply and join the list of ‘Holders’ who will be sought by banks, insurers, relocation companies, realtors and government agencies like HRSDC and CMHC.

Bill Mullen

2/20/07, 6:41 PM Bill Mullen

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User Name: bmullen1 Location: Sarnia, ON Posts: 225

Re: Do think the National Certification Good or Bad for us? Quote: Originally Posted by rwand1 Bill

Its understandable you are proud of your accomplishments I would be too, but its a misnomer to suggest that HRSDC, realtors, and CMHC, et al, will be only recommending National Certificate Holders particularly if there are insufficient numbers of NCA holders to fill the request. Its all in the numbers.
I agree. It’s all in the numbers, and as it looks now, we’ll have the numbers to handle the demand. At the moment we have enough people qualified (not all have their certificates yet) to do 7 -10,000 inspections a month and there are enough additional inspectors now in the program to do another 20,000 to 30,000 per month. The CMHC media announcements have already started, and within one month you can expect to see major announcements of support from some very large non-governmental national organizations.

It’s all falling into place. I don’t think of it as a win for only CAHPI…it’s a win for all legitimate, competent Canadian Home Inspectors. We are now getting the recognition and respect that we’ce coveted for years.

Bill Mullen

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If this is true, then in comparision you could relate it to RHI status in Ontario.
There are approx. 250 RHI inspectors. Do you think they are getting all the work exclusively; of course not, and the same will be true with Nat. Cert. inspectors.

In other words; hype, and we shouldn’t believe everything we read that is produced by CAHPI and the National.

Roy, that’s why I don’t bother responding to Bill anymore. Contradictions upon contradictions make any discourse pointless. As Mattie Ross said to Rooster Cogburn “What have you gained when you have bested a fool?”

Everyone in Ontario should boycot the National for the obvious reasons I have mentioned repeatedly.

If this is how CMHC intends to help the inspection industry God help us all.
This article is dated July 2007.

So much for NC creating a niche and raising prices!

http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/co/buho/hostst/hostst_005.cfm