Gee I guess those who are NC understand what they are worth . Glad I have the best certification there is Certified Master Inspector .
There is nothing finer.
Of course we all know NACHI is for all inspectors and OAHI/CAHPI proves they have a closed door policy.
NACHI conference $99:00 for all,
OAHI charges tooooo Much and extra for non members.
There is presently no uniform certification and no requirement for home inspectors to take any courses or to have passed any tests. Anyone can say that they are a home inspector. However, a good home and property inspector generally belongs to a provincial or industry association such as the Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors at [http://www.cahi.ca](javascript:HandleLink(‘cpe_1752_0’,‘CPNEWWIN:NewWindow^top=10,left=10,width=500,height=400,toolbar=1,location=1,directories=0,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizable=1@http://www.cahi.ca’) and l’Ordre des technologues professionnels du Québec at [http://www.otpq.qc.ca](javascript:HandleLink(‘cpe_1752_0’,‘CPNEWWIN:NewWindow^top=10,left=10,width=500,height=400,toolbar=1,location=1,directories=0,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizable=1@http://www.otpq.qc.ca’);).
Home inspector fees are generally $200 and more, depending on the size and condition of the home. Use the
[Home Inspection Checklist](javascript:HandleLink(‘cpe_1752_0’,‘CPNEWWIN:child^toolbar=1,location=1,directories=0,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizable=1@/en/co/buho/hostst/wosh_011.cfm?renderforprint=1’) to review your home inspection report.
Bill Mullen says the check list is an inferior way to do inspections .
Strange many OAHI/CAHPI members use the Carson Dunlop Check list system. I do believe Bill did at one time too. ** **
Whats this about?
Has [otpq.qc.ca](javascript:HandleLink(‘cpe_1752_0’,‘CPNEWWIN:NewWindow^top=10,left=10,width=500,height=400,toolbar=1,location=1,directories=0,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizable=1@http://www.otpq.qc.ca’) usurped CAHPI-Quebec?
There is presently no uniform certification and no requirement for home inspectors to take any courses or to have passed any tests. Anyone can say that they are a home inspector. However, a good home and property inspector generally belongs to a provincial or industry association such as the Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors at [http://www.cahi.ca](javascript:HandleLink(‘cpe_1752_0’,‘CPNEWWIN:NewWindow^top=10,left=10,width=500,height=400,toolbar=1,location=1,directories=0,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizable=1@http://www.cahi.ca’) and ***l’Ordre des technologues professionnels du Québec at [http://www.otpq.qc.ca](javascript:HandleLink(‘cpe_1752_0’,‘CPNEWWIN:NewWindow^top=10,left=10,width=500,height=400,toolbar=1,location=1,directories=0,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizable=1@http://www.otpq.qc.ca’);).
Ray,
They are the equivalent of http://www.aato.on.ca/index.html in Ontario. I think that AIBQ ask for their help a few years ago when stories about poor inspections made the papers.
And they kept there foot in the door since…
So strange how so many non NACHI members come to the NACHI site for their information . So glad NACHI continues to help all. CAHPI had a BB but shut it down as they obviously did not want the CAHPI members finding out how serious things are with the National Certification.
… Cookie
Thanks Marcel.
Not being able to read french, is there any mention of AIBQ at l’Ordre des technologues professionnels du Québec or mention of teaming up or anything about the National?
This is what they want every one to think but they have name registered Home Inspectors but not the Letters RHI. I can and do use the RHI frequently.
Roy Cooke . RHI . CAHPI-On and CAHPI-Ont and National Certification.
They would like all to think they own this well sorry but no way.
They bluff and I do not bend.
Some one I expect it is OAHI has succeeded in have my membership removed from ASHI at the end of this month .
Roy Cooke ASHI member #247632
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The NC is nothing is nothing more then what OAHI is doing and that is to limit the field of Home Inspectors and make more money to buy their own building.
Control is everything they are out for them selves not The Industry.
CAHPI/OAHI has from the get go ridiculed NACHI and its members.
Every one who gets the National Certification just helps them along on their wants.
The NATIONAL CERTIFICATION IS CLEARLY DESIGNED TO UNFAIRLY BENEFIT CAHPI.
ALL IN THE SUPPOSED NAME OF THE CONSUMER.
They are secret group just try and find out who has the NC or how many there are.
rhi = real home inspector :roll:
rhi = retired home inspector
rhi = retarded home inspector :|.)
A door prize maybe offered for the most imaginative rhi.
I like mine and this is the way it is on all my advertising .since 1999
[size=6]Roy’s Home Inspection .[/size]
[size=2]Andrew Dixon ( past President of OAHI )[/size]
[size=2]Said to me Oh! ( in about 1999 )[/size]
[size=2]I love it and when Char gets doing inspections she can use[/size]
[size=6]Char’s Home Inspection[/size] We have never done that but have registered many names that they would love to have .
RHI is protected in Ontario under PR 158. However it is quite evident OAHI is not prepared to take anyone to task for misuse because of the cost to prosecute because last time they did it cost $35K!
Nor are other provinicial associations in any postition financially to protect RHI.
OAHI has claimed unsuccessfully that I am misusing RHI whilst being Retired.
So you see it really doesn’t matter much about misuse of RHI.
Well the NC is not alone it looks like all the plans and how great it is going to be in The UK with the HIPS program it too is not doing to well.
At least they are up front and do not hide behind a wall of silence.
… Cookie
**HIPS disaster leaves inspectors facing ruin **
By Roya Nikkhah, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 12:35am BST 12/08/2007
The Government’s Home Information Packs (Hips) scheme has created an “industry with no work”, with thousands of home inspectors facing indefinite unemployment.
Little more than a week after the introduction of Hips for houses with four or more bedrooms, many inspectors are abandoning the profession, it can be revealed.
No date has yet been set for Hips to apply to the rest of the housing market and loopholes in the legislation allowing homeowners to avoid the packs have left thousands of inspectors with the prospect of little, if any, work. Most of the 3,000-strong task force have yet to complete a single job.
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The packs, which can cost more than £600, contain title deeds, local searches and a certificate rating a property’s energy efficiency.
On the Home Inspector Forum website, inspectors attack the Government for failing to implement the scheme fully, claiming they face financial ruin if Yvette Cooper, the housing minister, continues to delay.
Darren Brock, an inspector from Eastbourne, East Sussex, wrote: “I have registered with every estate agent and solicitor within 20 miles of my area but, to date, nothing. If I can earn my training fees back I will be happy and then I am out of this for good.”
Another inspector, identified as P. Phillips, wrote: “I feel I have wasted £4,000… I’m now looking to see how I can get some money back from this misguided farce.”
Home inspectors, many of whom paid up to £12,000 for training, were promised starting salaries of up to £70,000. But in June, less than two weeks before Hips were to be brought in, the introduction was postponed until this month, and then only for houses with four or more bedrooms.
Linda Gray, a trustee of the Institute of Home Inspectors, which represents more than 1,500 inspectors and domestic energy assessors, said the Government had “hung the profession out to dry”.
“This is looking more and more like a poorly planned disaster,” she said. “Our members are desperate. They have no work and nor will they until the scheme is rolled out, which the Government promised it would do as soon as possible. Delaying it only causes more uncertainty. What are they waiting for?”
Grant Shapps, the shadow housing minister, said: “This is yet another example of how Hips have been botched from start to finish. As the scheme has fallen apart, the Government’s main objective has been to save the skin of the minister rather than the livelihoods of the people it has led up the garden path.”
Nick Salmon, founder of the campaign group Splinta (Seller’s Pack Law Is Not The Answer), said the future was bleak. “Home inspectors were led to believe they could earn huge amounts of money, which is clearly not the case,” he said.
A spokesman for the Department for Communities and Local Government said: “We will roll out to other sized properties when sufficient energy inspectors are in place nationally and regionally to meet demand.”
Inspectors left out of pocket by dearth of HIPs business
DOZENS of home inspectors across Bournemouth and Poole have been left stranded without work despite the belated arrival of the government’s Home Information Packs (Hips).
Trained assessors, many of whom have invested thousands of pounds in training, have described the working environment as a “desert” as dozens of them bid for relatively few jobs.
After a series of frustrating delays, the controversial scheme, aimed at streamlining the long-winded house-buying process, finally came into force on August 1.
But a fortnight in and the Bournemouth and District Home Inspectors Association (BDHIA) reports that of more than 30 members, only three or four have managed to secure any work at all.
Member Graham Martin said: "It really is a bit of a desert. Just scraps, that’s all we are getting.
"There is a little bit of work but purely the odd job here and there.
“If you are totally reliant on the income, then forget it.”
Nation-wide, more than 3,000 assessors are trained up and ready for work, around 260 of whom are based in Dorset.
The problem with the lack of work is assessors are being poorly paid by the Hips providers, some offering less than £50 for an assessment that can take up to five hours.
Kevin Harvie, another trained assessor, said: “Everyone is clambering to get jobs and the Hips providers are taking the cheapest possible option.”
Mr Martin says he would now be happy just to recoup his £14,000 outlay on training, but doesn’t foresee any improvement in the market until spring at the earliest.
The dearth of work can be partially attributed to the type of houses that have been put up for assessment, which is currently just those with four bedrooms or more - just 18 per cent of the market.
“There are now a lot of assessors out there and that means the government has not got a reason not to bring in the rest of the stock,” said Mr Harvie.
He added that house sellers were also finding ways of avoiding paying for the Hips, such as advertising their homes as three bedrooms with a study, rather than four bedrooms.
A spokesman for the Department of Communities and Local Government said it would be rolling out further properties when there were “sufficient energy inspectors in place nationally and regionally to meet demand”.
7:00pm today
For the past five years I have been teaching the Advanced Inspection Training course in 4 Washington State Colleges and most recently at the University College of the Fraser Valley in British Columbia. This comprehensive 4 week course includes daily testing, lectures, slides, field work and report writing. I teach exclusively the Carson Dunlop program which I feel is the best available. www.advancedinspectiontraining.net
I applied for NCA Certification last year and was verbally advised approx 6 months later that I was accepted and would be receiving the final certification documents by weeks end. That was months ago. In a followup call to the NCA office I was advised that there had been several management changes and that my application was now not approved. I was advised that if I wanted I could reapply and go through the 4 month process again. In conversation with other educators in the field it appears that the NCA is very disorganized and poorly or questionably managed. Some people I have spoken with even suspect an underlying agenda.
Cheers
Roland Borsato
Advanced Inspection Training
Thanks Roland for the update .
I have been a member of the Carson Dunlop family for many years and I too think with out a doubt that it is the best of any I have seen in Canada .
I have sent many to take the C&D course.
Glad for you .
You have just added some more confirmation to all the information I have been getting .
I was a OAHI /CAHPI member for a while and do agree with what you say .
I expect the NC will do as the Course they talked many into taking at Whistle a few years ago it has just gone into limbo and is now not talked about by CAHPI.
I have been told more then once that many of the OAHI directors make more from teaching OAHI students then they do from Home Inspection.
Both OAHI and CAHPI are very secretive about many things.
This is what I have been hearing through my various sources as well. There seems to be several conflicts within the organization. It reared its ugly head last week as you likely read with regard to a director of OAHI, and TIPR examiner resigning from the BOD of OAHI due to various egos clashing. It pretty obvious that there are just too many conflicts of interest for anyone to be putting their eggs in one basket (i.e. National Certification) for my liking and apparently many others.
The program is not flawed, but rather the delivery and the often conflicting statements from CAHPI spokes people.
Hello Roland - feel free to document your concerns to me as the NCA Chair. I will look into this matter. Can you kindly provide me with dates, names or documented details by personal email?
I will not debate the issues here - such as it may be to the disappointment of some. I have concerns with your allegations, and certainly would like to respond armed with all of the facts.
and l’Ordre des technologues professionnels du Québec at [http://www.otpq.qc.ca](javascript:HandleLink(‘cpe_1752_0’,‘CPNEWWIN:NewWindow^top=10,left=10,width=500,height=400,toolbar=1,location=1,directories=0,status=1,menubar=1,scrollbars=1,resizable=1@http://www.otpq.qc.ca’);).
usurped CAHPI-Quebec?
very interesting! Looks like you predate the rhi royal home inspector