Originally Posted By: rwills This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Joe M. First of all, is the four letter word “find”, go find yourself? Ha!
Secondly, no you don’t bid on anything! If you read the last post,they have inspectors covering all areas in the country,firdt come first serve. Like I said, No One could do these jobs antway unless they went through this company! It ain’t selling nobody short, or hurting anybody. That’s bull _ _ _ _! and just an excuse to give the anal retentive somethin’ to bitch about! Not everybody can have an RE in like you! So unless you know what you’re talking about, why don’t you go “FIND” yourself! Your friend, Bob
P.S. Jeff, Don’t waste your breath! You know what they say about opinions! “Opinions are like Jo-OOps! I mean,Well! you know!” Anyway, I respect everybody’s opinion when I ask for it! Read the original post! I offered info to help people,PERIOD! Use it or don’t! End of! Not,Opinions please, or comments? I will not apologize for trying to help people. But since we’re tossing out opinions, for those that use the info and make out, God bless! For those that did and had problems, Sorry to hear it! For those greedy few that don’t like it, I don’t give a rat’s arce!
Originally Posted By: Robert Patterson This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Guys,
I called to see what they had, see my previous post. The gal said she wouldn't pay my prices because she "has two inspectors there already bidding for work".
Again I say reducing prices is wrong because it hurts us all, but I also understand why somebody would so that they can stay in the business until they are more solid, it's a business decision.
Joe M.
I'm still trying to understand how I'm "selling us out also". If it's because I may disagree with a business decision but understand why somebody would make it, then yea guess I am.
Originally Posted By: jmyers This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Jeff,
Good to hear it is working out for you. Anyway....would you want me any other way? I like to keep everyone on their toes, especially Bob W. I just love it when he turns that lovely shade of red! 
BTW.....Jeff....I did a septic inspection today in the snow. What a fun job. The tank was buried under frozen ground. I did everything I usually do...except this one had sewage running back into the house around the pipe it went out. They just had the septic certified at the end of Jan, 2002. HA..you must have done that one! (just kidding)
And no Bob.....find is not the word I had in mind but your are closer than you think! (don't go away mad, just go away!)
Mike...a thought is not an impression. I offer comptetive prices to everyone, I pass on the price shoppers because they usually make the worst clients. If you are looking for cheaper, I know a few I can send you too.
Keep in mind when you are talking to people most want a good inspection. If they see you are $50 cheaper they are going to start asking themselves why. They will assume the guy next to you is a better inspector because he charges more which means to them he is a better inspector. They will use him and not you. That is advice you can bank on!!
I am all for working to your potential...waiting for a full price inspection rather than working twice as hard and twice as long to make the same amount of money. Anyway.....I was just rattling the cage, so to speak. Bob W. knows I am not an atheist, I am catholic! HA
BTW....Mike...Welcome to NACHI 
Originally Posted By: jmyers This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Bob P.
I agree with you Bob. I will not start a bidding war, I will let Jeff and Bob W. take the work first. Anyway...who the HE** ever heard of Bensalem! 
Originally Posted By: jfarsetta This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Guys,
We're a whole lot better than this thread depicts us. Bob Wills threw something out there for inspectors who may not be as busy as they'd like to be. InspectionOne subs work. If they Charge $300, there probably going to pay someone about $200. This leaves a little for profit, and the rest for salaries, insurance, and corp overhead. If someone doesn't want to do the inspection for the price they are paying, they don't have to.
To Bob P's point, he personally thinks it's hurting everyone, but recognizes the reasons a person may want to partake. No rub there.
Bob Wills is trying to help. No rub there.
Everyone has and is entitled to his/her own opinion. No rub there.
But, when we turn a simple gesture into a free-for-all over bull-$hit like this, we look stupid. We're trying to grow this organization and this message board. If you think someone's an a$$hole, take it off line, or at least keep it professional. Think about it...
Originally Posted By: rwills This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Quote by Bob P.:“Guys,
See the thread “Need Work”. You will see that lack of HI’s sticvking together hurts us all.”
Guys, In my opinion you will NOT see how this hurts anyone. I posted the info to help anyone interested,so who is sticking together here,a fellow inspector offering info to other inspectors, or one that's afraid sharing any info will hurt his own business! The same guy that says HI orgs need to work together has a problem with sharing info within his own org. Go figure! Here's the picture! Any inspector that called the large relo org that is under CONTRACT with Inspection 1 would be told thanks but no thanks,so how is that hurting any of you.
Furthermore, consider franchises that hire inspectors at a FRACTION per inspection of what they could make on their own. Is that not hurting "us all". What's the difference. I'll tell you! join a large inspection firm and they own you. Do work for Inspection 1 and you still have your own business to run however you see fit. Why is HI's working as subcontractors considered taboo when all other industries do it? Are self employed Plumbers,Electricians, Carpenters,etc CHEAPOS and hurting everyone too? By the way,aren't some HI's ex Electricians,plumbers, etc and still doing work on the side? Isn.t that hurting your fellow contractors? I believe the word is "hypocrite"...Bob W
Originally Posted By: gbeaumont This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Hi Guys,
I agree whole heartedly with Joe F’s comments about this board, and as I have said previously this is a public forum. and we are supposed to be professionals. Joe is right this is not the forum for expletives no matter how well “hidden”.
An old Yorkshire quote "it is better to keep quite and be thought a fool, than to open you're mouth and prove it beyond doubt".
Some peoples comments on this and other boards make them look stupid and ignorant, may be they are !! but stop repeatedly proving it.
Originally Posted By: rwills This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Joe M.
Though we have played word name/games in the past, some find it offensive and unprofessional and I agree. so I have stricken it from record. Joe F and Gerry are right! My apology. Bob W
Originally Posted By: Robert Patterson This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Bob W,
You cannot compare employees and subcontractors, it's apples and oranges. As an employee, I don't have to pay licensing, vehicle costs, unemployment ins., liability insurance, bonds, E&O, etc. As a subcontractor I do, so my rates have to be higher to break even.
I am an Electrical Contractor and I still do electrical work. I still charge my normal rates and pay all my expenses. I am still licensed to do so.
I still stand by my position that cutting rates harms the industry, but that I can understand why someone would do it. I am not including an occasional free inspection.
So where is the HYPOCRISY? At the most you can call me wishy-washy.
I sat and wonder about the inanity of reading partial posts on a continual basis and making judgements based on partial and erroneous information and flawed judgement. Seems to be some here. It also strikes me as quite interesting that if someone formulates a thought and places it here, that you run the risk of being accused of "hypocrisy", "jealous", "worried about getting your piece of the pie". Hmmm... thought police brings up memories of reading about past history and the current state of our country. I assumed (yes, I know) that a forum such as this was a place to put forth and expound on ideas so that the old and new alike can learn and exchange ideas. Well, keep accusing, because I will continue to expostulate my ideas so that I can receive educated and constructive feedback from MOST of the NACHI membership.
Originally Posted By: jmyers This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Sorry everyone, I did not mean to come accross as being so harsh. I can understand that since most of you know me, I assumed all knew I was kidding around. I apologize to all that I offended, I will certainly be more careful in the future.
While I do agree that this really is hurting all inspectors, in the future I will say it in a more politically correct manner.
Originally Posted By: rwills This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Joe M, Same here! on your last post as far as kidding around and breakin’ b----!.
Bob P. Please read my last few posts regarding Inspection One and tell me how you believe this is hurting us all! You are merely subcontracting yourself to a company that has a contract to do a specific type of work, being relocation inspections. Surely, you must see where they to must make a profit to operate their business.
Like I stated, unless you go through this company, an inspector cannot even do these particular inspections, so how is this hurting you or anybody else? If anything, it's an avenue that probably wasn't even available to you or other "seasoned" inspectors in your beginning. Times change, and I to am a business owner that, believe it or not, am not looking to shoot myself or any other inspector in the foot. By the way, this is not a bidding war by no means. They pay by necessity of area, and where big companies happen to be relocating their employees to. I currently receive approx. two thirds of what I normally ask for an inspection from them. The difference being, they are like clockwork, always there!
Only a fool would think you could run a full time HI business relying on RE agencies alone nowadays. If I told you what kind of check I get from this company bi-weekly, not counting inspections I do separately, you would call me a liar! But thanks to them, I too can enjoy eating ribeyes every night like you.
I'll do what I have to, and yes, I don't mind sharing that with my fellow members... Bob W
Originally Posted By: Robert Patterson This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Bob,
Notice the part about the difference in employees and subcontractors? I feel that companies that want to get jobs done cheap should hire employees, while subs should keep their prices up. These companies charge the RE industry less to do the inspections than if they were on the open market. Don't kid yourself that these folks are not cutting into the open market. They are in the business of sewing up RE companies. Since when is it required to do radon, pest, etc inspections for rentals? Spent manhny years as a licensed Property manager and member of a National Property Manager Organization and never heard of these requirements. Have rented to major firms that lease properties for their execs and employees and never heard of these requiremnents. These inspections are for RE sales transactions. Major Relo Companies are REAL ESTATE AGENCIES and these folks try to get exclusive agreements with them. I was a broker and am familiar with them. They are cutting into your market. Are they unethical? Not in my opinion. They are running a business that (deespite what you think) is a serious threat to the open market in the HI Industry. Now, if somebody needs to work for them to stay in business, or just likes to, that's their business decision, I choose not to, that's my business decision. I just feel it harms the independant HI in the long run. But nowhere did I say the folks doing these inspections are unethical or wrong. Just because I disagree doesn't make either of us wrong.
Bob
BTW They do seem to pay more than some I've talked to. One company offered me $75.00 to do an inspection. 
Originally Posted By: jfarsetta This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Well, at least one thing is refreshing… no one’s posts were removed.
A thread on InspectionNews.com had some rather opinionated pro-legislation views regarding NJ's new home inspection law. The views I am speaking of were very elitist, and showed some mean-spirited attitude toward inspectors who will not be granted licenses in that state. It all came from one person, a Robert Fico. This guy, it turns out, is a director in ASHI. Big surprise there, as ASHI pushed this legislation to the hilt, and ranks it as the best HI legislation in the nation. (PS: it put about 1000 inspectors under the control of the other 300 licensed ones). When everyone started bashing him, and turning his words, untruths, and spinning against him, all of this person's printed words mysteriously disappeared from the board! It's like any possibility of nailing him could never be tracked back to him. Protecting the probem child? Makes you wonder what in the he11 is going on over there.
Guys,
