QOD for 04/21/04 Plumbing

Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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water heater question icon_lol.gif


The question itself is pretty easy but what else is wrong with this instalation ??

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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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There is no relief valve extension, and not 100% positive, but isn’t the grounding on the wrong side of the shutoff valve?



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Originally Posted By: rmoore
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Besides the funky flue…


No TPR drain plumbing.

The bonding of the hot and cold should be above the flex risers. The way it is now will require removing the clamps to replace the heater. Kind of defeats the purpose.

No strapping (I know...a regional thing).

Bottom half of water heater missing (for all I know).


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Originally Posted By: jsavino
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Flue pipe to close to combustible. (looks like a header in the background) Diverter has been flattened. Exhaust tee should be replaced with a elbow. The top of the heater has rusted connections, rust along the top cover, no drip tube on t/p valve to 6" above floor. Flex pipe replaced with hard copper.


Recommend replacing the heater by a reputable and licensed plumbing contractor in the near future.



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Originally Posted By: ftingle
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The piping isn’t insulated. Neither is the tank (but the insulation may be contained in the wall of the tank).


Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Improper installation of water heater and associated stuff. Need a REAL contractor to fix it. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif


Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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To see why all metal piping needs to be bonded look at the K&T in the background.


While I am glad to see the metal piping bonded, I would have put it in a better location. Higher and on the solid copper.

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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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K & T?



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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Knob and Tube.


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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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about 20 seconds after I posted I realized what you meant by that!..



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Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Good responses, with the other comments, Heck I had not noticed the K&T in the background ![icon_redface.gif](upload://f7DX2EWhmUfsDapWaYT3oJHMCj1.gif)

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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Gerry


It is tough when there are 1000's of pairs of eyes looking over your shoulder.

That is why I like this forum. We all see different things.

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Originally Posted By: pdoesburg
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Why would you need a hot water heater??? icon_idea.gif


Bonding is redundant, owner probably paranoid about the K&T.



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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Peter


Please explain what you mean by "Bonding is redundant".

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Originally Posted By: pdoesburg
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Appears in the photo that the wire runs across three water lines in 2 feet. Howmuch grounding do you need?


Also, the wire grounds the water heater, aren’t the clamps on the nuts which are isolated from the flex?


Sorry, half answer and half question,hope mom doesn’t read this.



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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Peter


Left to right.

The first pipe is the gas line.
2nd hot water line.
3rd cold water line.

All of these MUST be bonded. Other than the location on the pipes (personal preference) this is a good bond and code compliant.

The hot water tank is not an UL listed bonding method.

The gas lines, here in Ohio, are allowed to be 'effectively bonded' via the furnace, hot water tank or plug (if a egc is present).

Mike P.