QOD for 6/18/04 (Misc)

Originally Posted By: dbush
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Have a good day



Dave Bush


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Originally Posted By: psabados
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You forgot windex


Paul


Originally Posted By: tallen
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Emergency entrance? Thats not fair icon_lol.gif



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Originally Posted By: cmacgillivray
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icon_evil.gif I got burned on that too.


Originally Posted By: jstevens
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icon_biggrin.gif come on guys no more beer till you get done readin the posts


Originally Posted By: sspradling
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As the father of 2 teenage girls, I knew emergency entrance wasn’t an option.


Stu


Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi to all,


gosh, I loved that question, especially the way it tripped a few of you up, just as it was intended to do, great one Dave ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)

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Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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So, considering that the title of section R310 in the IRC is “Emergancy escape and rescue”, what is the right answer? It seems to me that the act of escaping is leaving throught the window, but the act of rescue is getting in through the window…



Ryan Jackson, Salt Lake City

Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi to all,


Good point Ryan, that is a valid point, I am looking forward to Dave having to explain the correct answer (I'm glad I don't have to) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)

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Gerry


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Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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I don’t think I got tripped up. In my opinion, I was one of the 5 that got it right.


I have always been told that the 5.7 sqaure foot of opening requirement and also the minimum height and width of the window is to accomodate emergancy gear that would be worn by rescue personel. I mean, think about it...do you really need 5.7 sqaure feet of window and a 9 sqaure foot window well to get out? I can tell you right now, I sure didn't when I was in high school ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


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Originally Posted By: dfrend
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You are right. There is a reason for the size and I wear it on my back. But, isn’t a code requirement called egress, as in exit. Which would make two right answers. Emergency “entrance” is definitely a purpose too though, and is where the sizing comes from. Try getting in with a 60 minute SCBA on your back.



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Originally Posted By: dfrend
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Dave, what was the answer?



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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Voyeurism.


Originally Posted By: lfranklin
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I know I shouldn’t jump in here but here goes icon_redface.gif icon_redface.gif Seems like everyone agree the windows are used for light and ventilation. Now are they used for entrance or exit. Probably both so now which are they used the most for


Another thought there is no size or location of these windows. These could be small windows. So with that in thought and with kids I think they would be used more in an exit than entrance.


Originally Posted By: tallen
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I see your point. Maybe a basement window? But


Small would be the required 5.7 sq.ft. Which is supposedly large enough for the fireperson toting a pack to fit through to gain emergency entrance.


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Originally Posted By: dfrend
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My understanding of the code requirements on size is that the size was designed to allow a firefighter to fit through, and also to meet the code requirements for secondary egress. If a room has one door and a few windows, those windows are oviously the secondary egress. They are also a secondary entrance for emergency personell.


If there is heavy fire in a stairway of a house, I am going through the windows to search the upper floors. And more than likely, if there was someone in there not already unconcious, they will be coming out that window.


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Originally Posted By: dfrend
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See the importance of entrance.



And of exit.

Note: The picture on top was actually after the firefighter bailed with serious burns, but the stairway was too hot for him to go out anywhere but that window. However, the one on top was an attempt to re-enter after the first hose had arrived in an unfortunately too late effort to save the infant inside.


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