Receptacle outlet under food waste disposer

[jjimenez (Juan C. Jimenez)]

@jwhitt

nothing .

I meant Mike Auger sorry.

[rmeier2 (Robert Meier)]

@jwhitt

If installed so as the only exposed part is the screw head then it should be fine. Not saying compliant but nothing that would be dangerous.

On a side note here is what is said in 314.23(B) for boxes and screws
(1) Nails and Screws. Nails and screws, where used as a fastening means, shall be attached by using brackets on the outside of the enclosure, or they shall pass through the interior within 6 mm (¼ in.) of the back or ends of the enclosure.
Screws shall not be permitted to pass through the box unless exposed threads in the box are protected using approved means to avoid abrasion of conductor insulation.

There are non-metallic boxes that are designed with screws on the inside for mounting

Mike called this a side note since that code section does not apply to the OP. It would apply to this type of installation.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1-ZAkfPdgvQ/TlECMYI_CaI/AAAAAAAAACI/DGuLhLwYEXU/w377-h546-no/Gem+box+nails.jpg

[mauger (Mike Auger, CMI - RI 43685, RMC-142, RMB-096)]

@jjimenez

That makes sense Mike. So what exactly would you put in your report?

If I included a comment it would be an informational note, and not listed as a defect in my report. I’d go something like this…

Informational note: Although this receptacle box installation is technically acceptable and allowed, you may consider relocating the receptacle box to a position higher and on the side of the cabinet further reducing reducing the potential risk of water or fluid entry into the box in case of a leak or spill. Any modification to the electrical system should be performed by a qualified, licensed electrician. (have a photo with the comment)

[jwhitt (Joseph M. Whitt)]

@Robert_Meier

Mike called this a side note since that code section does not apply to the OP. It would apply to this type of installation.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1-ZAkfPdgvQ/TlECMYI_CaI/AAAAAAAAACI/DGuLhLwYEXU/w377-h546-no/Gem+box+nails.jpg

Thanks Rob, I couldn’t find a pic like this one but I didn’t look hard either although I did find one of the other box

[jjimenez (Juan C. Jimenez)]

@mauger

If I included a comment it would be an informational note, and not listed as a defect in my report. I’d go something like this…

Informational note: Although this receptacle box installation is technically acceptable and allowed, you may consider relocating the receptacle box to a position higher and on the side of the cabinet further reducing reducing the potential risk of water or fluid entry into the box in case of a leak or spill. Any modification to the electrical system should be performed by a qualified, licensed electrician. (have a photo with the comment)

While I disagree that this should be in a report, that’s a great way to put it in.

Why stop there though? Why not recommend adding GFCI protection, or hardwiring the disposal?

[cjacobi (Chris Jacobi, CMI HI01200061)]

@mauger

If I included a comment it would be an informational note, and not listed as a defect in my report. I’d go something like this…

Informational note: Although this receptacle box installation is technically acceptable and allowed, you may consider relocating the receptacle box to a position higher and on the side of the cabinet further reducing reducing the potential risk of water or fluid entry into the box in case of a leak or spill. Any modification to the electrical system should be performed by a qualified, licensed electrician. (have a photo with the comment)

That’s a good narritive.

[ckenyon (Chris l. Kenyon)]

@jjonas

Nahhh… judging by that P-Trap, your photo is just upside down! :mwa-hah:

Looks like a Boston loop vent to me, but it is definitely short.