Originally Posted By: sam jones This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Freezers and refridgerators are allowed to be on a non gfci ckt. as long as they are dedicated ckts and nothing else can be plugged in along side them. This way no one gets hurt and a nuisance trip does not take your fridge out. Same with sump pumps, dedicated ckts…
Originally Posted By: sam jones This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
The six foot rule was a good guideline put in place for gfci,s and it worked and saved many lives. If your telling your clients not to worry accept within six feet of the sink then your not giving them the most current information which is protection of all countertop recepts. I dont omit the current NEC changes, I leave it up to them to decide based on the most current information. That way I feel I have done all I can. I say to them ,
it was not code when this house was built, but if you built it today, it is code now so you would comply, and leave it at that.
Originally Posted By: dconstant This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Everyone is talking about recommendations or not for the placement of a GFCI outlet, but what about:
I've seen outlets in a bathroom which are normal three prong outlets, but no test button, thus not GFCI protected. WRONG or maybe wrong. One could be wired off a GFCI breaker.
My question is: "If there is not a GFCI outlet within the required distance, but just a normal outlet, how does one confirm that it is indeed GFCI protected or not? Looking for the sleuths solutions.
Originally Posted By: psabados This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Doug
The GFCI could be located in another bathroom or ajoining area upstream in the circuit run. Use your GFCI tester. If it pops off then you have to find out where its at and reset it. If it doesn't then you know its not properly protected or possibly defective, note it in your report as such. If the dwelling was built before 1975 it wasn't required by NEC.
Originally Posted By: dvalley This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Douglas,
If there is a three prong outlet in the bathroom with no test button, it does not necassarily tell me that it is not a GFCI receptacle. I use a GFCI outlet tester that comes equipped with a black trip button. If I test this outlet with this tester and it does not trip, I advise my client to upgrade this receptacle to a GFCI and any other outlets within 6 feet of water. I see alot of bathroom receptacles wired to one GFCI, which is usually located in the lower bathroom or at the receptacle next to the main SE.
There is alot of useful in-depth info regarding GFCIs in this forum if you enter the letters GFCI at the search tab on top of this page.
Good Luck. 
Originally Posted By: Dennis Bozek This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Dave…
 Where do you come up with these pictures   
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Originally Posted By: jmyers This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
I will go out on the limb here an just say, “FU** IT”. Lets all call for GFCI protection and AFCI protect the rest of the house where GFCI protection is not required.
