mbruchs
(Michael Bruchs)
May 13, 2015, 5:00am
1
Should the ground buss have a bonding strap installed in this 100 amp General Electric sub panel?
jhutchings
(Jeremy P. Hutchings, IOS.2284-RES)
May 13, 2015, 7:27am
2
The ground buss is always unbonded from the neutral buss in a sub panel. I hope that is the answer you were looking for.
jpope
(Jeffrey Pope, CMI, CHI, CPI, ICC)
May 13, 2015, 1:36pm
3
Yes. The grounding terminal is required to be bonded to the enclosure. There should be a bonding strap or bonding screw installed on the grounding terminal.
rmeier2
(Robert Meier)
May 13, 2015, 2:19pm
4
The bus on the far left is being used for the connection of all the EGC’s, that should be bonded to the enclosure.
Jim_Port
(Jim Port)
May 13, 2015, 2:53pm
5
This is not always true. Older editions of the NEC allowed three wire feeders to detached building with no metallic path between buildings.
jhutchings
(Jeremy P. Hutchings, IOS.2284-RES)
May 13, 2015, 4:14pm
6
I did not know that. I learn something new everyday. Sorry for my misinformation.
rmeier2
(Robert Meier)
May 13, 2015, 4:53pm
7
No reason to apologize because as you’ve stated under the last few code cycles your original statement was correct. Jim provided a useful exception that you may encounter in the field when inspecting older installations.
rlewis5
(Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)
May 13, 2015, 5:06pm
8
Jim
Isn’t it the same today?
rmeier2
(Robert Meier)
May 13, 2015, 5:32pm
9
It changed under the 2008 NEC which eliminated the exception for new installations.
2005 NEC:
250.32(B)(2) Grounded Conductor Where (1) an equipment grounding conductor is not run with the supply to the building or structure, (2) there are no continuous metallic paths bonded to the grounding system in each building or structure involved, and (3) ground-fault protection of equipment has not been installed on the supply side of the feeder(s), the grounded conductor run with the supply to the building or structure shall be connected to the building or structure disconnecting means and to the grounding electrode(s) and shall be used for grounding or bonding of equipment, structures, or frames required to be grounded or bonded.
2008 NEC:
250.32(B) Grounded Systems. For a grounded system at the
separate building or structure, an equipment grounding con-
ductor as described in 250.118 shall be run with the supply
conductors and be connected to the building or structure
disconnecting means and to the grounding electrode(s). The
equipment grounding conductor shall be used for ground-
ing or bonding of equipment, structures, or frames required
to be grounded or bonded. The equipment grounding
conductor shall be sized in accordance with 250.122.
Any installed grounded conductor shall not be connected
to the equipment grounding conductor or to the ground-
ing electrode(s).
Exception: For existing premises wiring systems only, the
grounded conductor run with the supply to the building or
structure shall be permitted to be connected to the building
or structure disconnecting means and to the grounding
electrode(s) and shall be used for grounding or bonding of
equipment, structures, or frames required to be grounded
or bonded where all the requirements of (1), (2), and (3)
are met:
(1) An equipment grounding conductor is not run with the
supply to the building or structure.
(2) There are no continuous metallic paths bonded to the
grounding system in each building or structure involved.
(3) Ground-fault protection of equipment has not been in-
stalled on the supply side of the feeder(s).
jhutchings
(Jeremy P. Hutchings, IOS.2284-RES)
May 13, 2015, 5:34pm
10
Deleted because answer above.
jhutchings
(Jeremy P. Hutchings, IOS.2284-RES)
May 13, 2015, 5:37pm
11
Thanks Robert because I too had wondered.