Superior Product and Service seals are now tied to InterNACHI's Vendor Code of Ethics

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

http://www.nachi.org/productseals.htm

[jbushart (James H. Bushart)]

@gromicko

InterNACHI's Product and Service Seals

I notice that you revised this page and deleted the former acknowledgment/requirement that a vendor using these seals agree that inspectors may post their dissatisfaction with the product or service on the NACHI message board and that the vendor will respond.

Is this to accommodate the dishonest and unethical vendor who removed his seal from his website when a notice of this clause was published?

I also noticed that the NACHI Vendor Ad Policy which he violated has been removed. Will he be rewriting a page to replace it?

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@jbushart

I notice that you revised this page and deleted the former acknowledgment/requirement that a vendor using these seals agree that inspectors may post their dissatisfaction with the product or service on the NACHI message board and that the vendor will respond.

Is this to accommodate the dishonest and unethical vendor who removed his seal from his website when a notice of this clause was published?

I also noticed that the NACHI Vendor Ad Policy which he violated has been removed. Will he be rewriting a page to replace it?

And the slide down the slippery slope continues.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

I notice that you revised this page and deleted the former acknowledgment/requirement that a vendor using these seals agree that inspectors may post their dissatisfaction with the product or service on the InterNACHI message board and that the vendor will respond.

Members can already post their dissatisfaction with any product or service without vendor consent. The vendor can respond or ignore. The Product and Service seals also now require vendors to abide by Vendor Code of Ethics - InterNACHI®

It’s all becoming integrated.

[jbushart (James H. Bushart)]

@mlarson

And the slide down the slippery slope continues.

Yep.

I copied the old policy on a pdf file, anticipating that it might disappear shortly after posting a link to it. Things like that are becoming more common.

Anyway, here is what it said:

InterNACHI’s vendor ad policy.

In order for any Vendor, or potential Vendor, seeking InterNACHI approval of any type, or the permission to utilize the InterNACHI name, the words National Association of Certified Home Inspectors, or to use the InterNACHI logo, and advertise the use of any of these items in any media outlet (eg: Internet, print media, broadcast media, telephone contact, verbal presentation of any type, etc.), InterNACHI must be assured that any promotion of a vendor, product, or service by said Vendor meets the requirement for accuracy and honesty in the items presented.

As such, InterNACHI reserves the right to review any such application for approval, at any time (even as part of a review after permission had already been granted) to help assure the accuracy, quality, and applicability including those involving State Licensing Requirements of any type whatsoever, and the spirit of the law) of what a Vendor product/service purports to offer.

If in the sole opinion of InterNACHI, the Vendor has failed to establish accuracy in the description or intent of the product/service offering, or if for any reason whatsoever InterNACHI believes the promotion may be construed as misleading, or if in InterNACHI’s sole opinion it can not establish the accuracy of said promotion, InterNACHI reserves the instantaneous right to instruct the Vendor to remove all references to InterNACHI, or deny the Vendors right to use the words InterNACHI and National Association of Certified Home Inspectorsand theInterNACHI logo from all media outlets. In short, the burden of proof rests with the Vendor.

It is InterNACHI’s sole and exclusive right to grant or revoke any approval, permission, or endorsement at any time, and for any reason.

InterNACHI's Product and Service Seals (productseals.htm)

The revised version, if it is replaced, should be quite interesting in comparison.

When the Chairman of the ESOP attempted to enforce this policy, a very dishonest and unethical vendor threatened to file a frivolous lawsuit against him for doing so … thus, members have never actually been protected by this policy, anyway. Let’s see how much lower the bar is set in the next version.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

We’re integrating everything instead of having various policies on different pages all over the place.

Even our Member Code of Ethics now has a tab at the top of the page to find the Vendor Code of Ethics. www.nachi.org/code_of_ethics.htm

And our Vendor Code of Ethics now has a tab at the top of the page to find our Member Code of Ethics. www.nachi.org/vendor-ethics.htm

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@gromicko

We’re integrating everything more and more instead of having various policies on different pages all over the place.

Even our Member Code of Ethics now has a tab at the top of the page to find the Vendor Code of Ethics. www.nachi.org/code_of_ethics.htm

That’s a fancy and meaningless buzzward.

It makes sound like you are doing something useful.

Too bad its only a buzz word.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

Much more than a buzzword. We had to find and change hundreds of pages, reprint brochures, reprint books, rewrite courses, rewrite quizzes, rewrite exams, resubmit those courses for approval, and on and on.

[jbushart (James H. Bushart)]

@mlarson

That’s a fancy and meaningless buzzward.

It makes sound like you are doing something useful.

Too bad its only a buzz word.

He borrowed it from Thornberry … where other vendors are “integrating” their products to his so that kickbacks can be quickly paid for the client information that is being sold to him. There are many ways for a client’s contact information to reach this stage.

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

You are the putz you call your buddy.
You have nothing good to say…ever .
I feel sorry for you …Yes! I do !

@mlarson

And the slide down the slippery slope continues.

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@rlewis5

You are the putz you call your buddy.
You have nothing good to say…ever .
I feel sorry for you …Yes! I do !

See if you can make some kind of useful post with attacking me.

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

You are alway the aggressor !
I’d like to backhand ya for alway being such a putz! !

@mlarson

See if you can make some kind of useful post with attacking me.

[jkeilson (James Keilson, CMI, Certified Master Inspector)]

@gromicko

Members can already post their dissatisfaction with any product or service without vendor consent. The vendor can respond or ignore. The Product and Service seals also now require vendors to abide by Vendor Code of Ethics - InterNACHI®

It’s all becoming integrated.

You are only saying that to attempt to remove a little bit of your liability by endorsing something you know to be wrong.

This is quite obvious, but say what you want.

Jim

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

…by endorsing something you know to be wrong.

And what would that be?

[jbushart (James H. Bushart)]

@jkeilson

You are only saying that to attempt to remove a little bit of your liability by endorsing something you know to be wrong.

This is quite obvious, but say what you want.

Jim

Jim — You use a NACHI vendor at your own risk.

All Nick promises is a better deal than a non-member gets. He does not promise honesty, integrity, value, or performance for any product or service provided by any vendor. That has always been the case and should be even more obvious, today.

He puts on the T-shirt and points to the logo … then, it’s all up to you.
Caveat emptor.

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

Nick !
It appears you can’t do anything correct, as some may think.
Who is their enemies enemy !

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

All Nick promises is a better deal than a non-member gets. He does not promise honesty, integrity, value, or performance for any product or service provided by any vendor.

Correct.

[jbushart (James H. Bushart)]

@gromicko

Correct.

And there is nothing wrong with it … until you decide to interfere with the process.

You present dishonest and unethical businessmen with their discounts and leave it to the members to protect themselves. This is good.

Then … during that cleansing process … you choose to overrule the infrastructure designed to do that (the ESOP Committee) … delete the NACHI Vendor Ad Policy … and revise the code of ethics to accommodate unethical behavior. That is the gripe against you, Nick.

You can’t have it both ways.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

I’ve never overruled ESOP (strike one), the Vendor Ad Policy has been integrated into the Vendor COE (strike two), and we’ve never revised a COE to accommodate unethical behavior (strike three).

Batter up!

[jbushart (James H. Bushart)]

@gromicko

I’ve never overruled ESOP (strike one), the Vendor Ad Policy has been integrated into the Vendor COE (strike two), and we’ve never revised a COE to accommodate unethical behavior (strike three).

Batter up!

The umpire is either blind or has also “revised” the strike zone.