Thank You, Missouri Association of Realtors

(Posted, here, for the sake of anyone “googling” the Missouri Association of Realtors)

In this passing year, Missourians have seen the highest number of foreclosures than at any other time in their history. Families are being forced out of their homes and are forfeiting their investments and credit scores in continuously rising record numbers as they struggle to find a new place to sleep.

  Now, the people who arranged to sell them these houses - the real estate salesmen and saleswomen - have their tens of thousands of dollars in commissions safely secured before any foreclosure threatens to harm them.

From these commissions running from $15,000 to $25,000 per sale on the average Missouri home, the salesman pays dues to a national organization (the National Association of Realtors) and a state organization (the Missouri Association of Realtors) who exist for the soul purpose of protecting and furthering the interest of the real estate salesmen.

  These associations, who own and operate a very well financed and sophisticated political infrastructure in Missouri, have been very active in the Missouri legislature when it comes to helping real estate salesmen sell houses.

  It probably helps that some of the very important committees dealing with bills that positively enhance the real estate sales profession are made up mainly (30 - 45%) of real estate salesmen who get elected to the legislature and maintain their membership in the associations (NAR and MAR) that lobby them.

  For example, last year the Missouri Association of Realtors supported a bill (that did not pass) that would have made a salesman immune from a lawsuit if he was caught concealing his knowledge of a convicted sex offender in the immediate area of a house he was trying to sell.  How would something like that benefit a home buyer?  The benefit to the salesman is obvious.

  Likewise was their attempt to take the only party involved in a home selling action, the home inspector, and put him under their control by a bill they sponsored that would have a board oversee his actions.  This board would have had real estate salesmen and others who they lobby for membership on it, in direct control over the only party in the transaction who does not profit from the sale of the house.    In their wisdom, the Missouri legislature ignored this suggestion and did not even consider putting the bill up for a vote. we have a new legislative year coming up.   

  The Missouri Association of Realtors has been hard at work.

  One would think that the high number of their former customers who have lost the homes that were sold to them would be a priority. 

One would think that associations representing salesmen of real estate would want to focus all of their attention and energy in helping their customers and potential customers from the known dangers that have cost so many of them their dreams. Why, it would be a grand an honorable measure for the MAR to use their strong lobbying infrastructure to help the record number of their customers who are struggling to avoid homelessness.

  But we forget that the Missouri Association of Realtors is not in business to protect or care about the consumer of their product. 

They are there to protect the interests of their members who pay their dues…the real estate salesmen. They are there only to advance the interests and sales goals of the sellers of homes and property that they represent.

  As a result of their efforts and spending over the summer, they have convinced a legislator to try again to push through a bill....not to address the protection of their customers....but the protection of their commissions.  They, once again, will tie up their efforts in trying to rein in and reign over the home inspector who writes the report that the home owner reads and decides not to buy the house they are selling.

  Home inspectors look at the property and describe it to the potential buyer in a report that is unbiased and accurate.  When the buyer reviews the report and decides to walk away from the sale, the real estate salesman makes no money.  Thus, his association...the Missouri Association of Realtors...has an interest in helping its members make more money by using its legislative influences to push for laws that put inspectors directly and indirectly under their control.

Given the choice of going after legislation that would help people stay in the homes they sold them…or going after legislation to protect themselves from inspectors who “kill their deals”, they chose the latter.

  A new push for this year is their introduction to deepen the pockets of home inspectors by mandating a malpractice insurance that would encourage lawsuits (that are now being made against real estate salesmen) to be made against home inspectors.  Of course, the Missouri Association of Realtors find this to be of benefit to its membership and have endorsed it without bothering to check with the Missouri Attorney General's office whose records reflect that more complaints have been filed against florists than home inspectors in the past five years.   

But increasing the amount of money it costs to be a home inspector will, in their minds, increase the need of the inspector to solicit their referrals…knowing that they are unlikely to refer an inspector who might cost them a sale.

  The foreclosure rates, predatory lending practices, and title insurance issues are fortunately on the front burner with the legislators who are NOT influenced by the salesmen and their lobby.  These legislators are the ones who need your help and support.

  These salesmen of real estate made 7% commission on your parent's home in 1950....and they still make the same 7% commission on the $300,000.00 Missouri home selling, today.  This is big, big money.  They pay much of that into dues to the Missouri Association of Realtors to help them protect it.

  Support those who protect you.  Let your legislative representative know that you expect him or her to correct....not perpetuate...the damages that consumers of real estate sales are enduring in record numbers.

Thank you,

James H. Bushart
President, Missouri Chapter of the National Association of Certified Home Inspectors

To the best of my knowledge the Realtors only charge 6% in Kansas City.


According to MO Real estate law, there is no set commission charge. A realtor can charge what ever they want, 4% or 20%. Most charge anywhere from 5-8%. 6 or 7 is the most common in the St. Louis area, with budget listings at less. I’ve heard of one agency that is regularly charging 10%.

In most cases, like for home inspectors, you get what you pay for.

Mark N.

I found out this year, if you are an affiliate member of the local Board of Realtors, you are an automatic member of the MAR. Even though you never pay any state or national dues. This is another way the Missouri Association of Realtors keeps their numbers up to show when they are lobbing our legislators.

I have seen 7 percent with advertising fees even added on top.

It’s a lot like joining ASHI, and automatically becoming a member of MAHI.

Mark or For Anybody -

#1 - I’ve been told that part of the rules for real estate agents to be able to maintain their independent status with tax laws is that the commissions must be negotiable.

#2 - We frequently refer to RE Agents as Realtors. Not all Agents are Realtors. I’m not sure if all of us are aware of that. Being a Realtor is like us belonging to NACHI, ASHI or NAHI OR like a home builder joining the HBA. Its a group of people that do what they do. They can join if they want, **BUT **they don’t have to - just like with us.

#3 - Each state has a State Board of Realtors (for example: **MAR **is Missouri Association of Realtors AND **KAR **is the Kansas Association of Realtors).

#4 - The Realtors have a big lobby and deep pockets. In Kansas we have about 15,000 Realtors, with almost 10,500 being in the Kansas City metro area. About 5,200 +/- of those are on the Kansas side of Kansas City.

Lot of Realtors and we’re not a huge area like Houston, Dallas, Chicago, etc.

They use their numbers, money and political clout to get what they want.

Last year one of the lobbyists in Kansas showed us the contributions the KAR as a group had made to legislators, and it was awesome - probably 65% of the legislators had gotten contributions from KAR.

Then you have individual contributions to legislators by real estate offices and individual sales people and it is almost unbelievable.

As a former Realtor in MO, I am very familiar with MO Real Estate laws.

1). Fee’s don’t have to be negotiable. You can have non-negotiable fees. You just can’t agree with other competing agents what the “standard” fee for commissions in an area is going to be. All the agents in one company may agree to a set commission rate, but they can’t collude with other agencies to set the fees universally.

2). True, not all Agents are Realtors. To be a Realtor you must be a member of the National Association of Realtors. However (at least in my county), if you want to have access (as a RE agent) to the local MLS, you have to join the county board of Realtors, which in turn automatically makes you a member of both the State, and the National Association of Realtors, which in turn makes you a Realtor. So for all practical purposes (at least here) if you are an agent, then you are also (probably) a Realtor.

3). True. Missouri has a state board of Realtors, and as a county member you are also a member of the state as well (like the national).

4). That is true, there is a whole lot of lobbying going on. However that is done through an associated organization called RPAC (Realtor Political Action Committee), and not directly by the county board of realtors (it’s generally the same individuals though). There is an additional (optional) fee that agents may or may not contribute to for lobbying efforts. This fee is charged each year to all county board members (and affiliates), but may be deducted if an agent or affiliate chooses not to contribute.

I have been approached already several times to contribute to MAR’s political action commitee. After I tell them just because I go to their meetings and belong to their education board does not mean I want to contribute to a fund that is use to push MAR control over the home inspection industry. I usually get a strange look and then I explain the bill. The average Realtor has no idea what is going on. Most Realtors are not bad, just do not know what is going on around them.

This is true.

Last year, I had several real estate people contact me in support of my opposition to the bill that their association was pushing.

Mind you, when the Missouri Asociation of Realtors “supports” a bill, part of that “support” is to get their members on the phone and writing letters to local congressmen. I think that the continued and consistent failures of these efforts stems from the fact that it is the associations…and not the members…who are pushing for it.


Because the National Association of Realtors…their head…decided to make it a part of their nationwide agenda back in 1995 to have all states licensing their home inspectors.

Some states were caught sleeping. Many home inspectors fell for the line that “licensing is inevitable” and felt that submitting themselves to the rapists would save their lives.

This time…the MAR thinks they are going to win because they have introduced in their bill a “grandfathering clause” for those of us belonging to NACHI, NAHI and ASHI.

They think that by promising a license (the first year, anyway) to all the opposition will quiet the dissent.

They are wrong…and, by the way, they are foolish for their very proposal to “grandfather” the hundreds of inspectors already in business merely supports the argument that the bill is unnecessary.

Licensing is needed or it is not needed. One way or the other. Period.

Again…thank you, Missouri Association of Realtors. Duh.

When I Google “Missouri Association of Realtors” this comes up on the first page.

It is a shame that the members of this association who are not in support of this legislation must bare the shame along with the rest.

I have emailed real estate salespeople that I know…and am emailing many I don’t know…and have asked them to contact the MAR with their thoughts.

Guys…most of the real estate salespeople I have spoken to about this do not support it…and those who do are not enthusiastically in support to the degree that they want to make a big deal over it.


I received several calls from publishers, today, and one who already published the article. They seem to be jumping on this one a little quicker than the others.

I am especially encouraged by the touches the editor made to the letter. For instance, in the Joplin paper, the editor noted and added that the RE salesman is not only immune from losing any of his commissions at the time of foreclosure, but stands to make even more when he sells it again. Nice touch.

It is good to have the media with us on this one.

I like it.

Well I’ll be , intersting info…
And all these years everybody here blamed ASHI and the home inspection schools…:roll: :roll:

Not true.

Schools are a result of the licensing effort and certainly have their role to play in supporting it. ASHI…with their noses firmly implanted in the real estate sales community’s rectum (which is where they channeled all of their money and effort for their “branding” scheme), still have a hard time separating themselves from the licensing effort.

Even though licensing kills all incentive to pay ASHI’s high dues (since licensing makes all inspectors presumably equal in competency and qualifications), its leadership cannot help itself when faced with the chance of getting a seat on a licensing board with the help of their “branded” buddies in real estate.

Still, it is an effort driven by the greed of the salespeople of real estate and allowed by inspectors who feel dependent upon them for leads.

Well Dan you’re correct and your quote was in order too!:wink: Find a state thats not licensed and you will find several of the ASHI core group sniffing behind the NAR reps begging them to control the minions in the inspector corp. In many states that certain core group has continually tried to work with Realtors behind everybody elses back in introducing licensure favorable to them By working with the Realtors use their political influence to load up the licensing commission in their favor with their people. Then after everything is in place, watch them try to even take more control by pushing for limitations in reporting, its already happened in several states.

Oh by the way, don’t forget about that wonderful money making NHIE program, without it that “A” org would be in serious trouble, wouldn’t they? :roll: Oh yes, that just what we all need to be good little home inspectors


I don’t know about ASHI National, but I have no doubt that the board members of the NHIE would trade their children for a the inside track to a licensing bill, and from all observations it appears they like their children. :smiley:


Well written. Congratulations on getting it published.

Just ask around what happen to Jeff the former Midwest ASHI chapter president when he spoke against the Missouri licensing bill.

Please explain…:?:

Soon after he spoke out, ASHI National threatened him to take away his Realtor referrals and replaced him as president. The members of his chapter did not even get to vote. This is not the first time I have heard that ASHI members have been threaten by their own organization.
They do not even stop at that. At the last Missouri Housing Industry Alliance meeting Dirt Harry of the fake coalition (Missouri Association of Home Inspectors) threatened me because I corrected one of his misstatements at the meeting before. I was beside myself that somebody three months later would bring this up now. Just because I caught him lying about home inspectors, which he quickly corrected himself. The funny part at the end he said I was way out of my league, which I agree, when it comes to kissing the Missouri Association of Realtors butts he is the best I have seen.