vent tube ?

Originally Posted By: five.five
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I saw this vent under a bathroom sink today.


was on only one of two sinks in the same bathroom.


Is this okay ?


Wasn’t like this on the other sink in the same bathroom, or in the master bath, that had the same 2 sink set-up.


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Originally Posted By: tjohn
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five.five


Used to see these in college. Not a vent tube dude it's a BONG. Tell the parents. ![icon_eek.gif](upload://yuxgmvDDEGIQPAyP9sRnK0D0CCY.gif)


Originally Posted By: jpope
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Evaporator coil of an A/C system located (most likely) in the attic? This would be the primary condensate drain line.



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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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Hmmm…usually I see this at the kitchen sink, where the dishwasher discharge is connected to the plumbing drain.


Just guessing as I don’t quite know the layout of the home, but is there a dishwasher located on the opposite side of that wall perhaps?



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Originally Posted By: mboyett
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Darren,


Jeff’s correct, that’s the common method of connecting the condensate drain line in newer homes in our area. The installer has to be careful not to kink that relatively soft hose thereby clogging the main drain.



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Originally Posted By: pdickerson
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There may not be anything wrong with the way the drain line is connected, but there sure is something wrong with that P-trap. It is assembled backwards. The trap seal is supposed to be between 2 and 4 insches. This looks like about 6 inches. I write those up when I see them.


Originally Posted By: lkage
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Good eye Paul. It looks like he was too lazy too trim the tail piece and just “made it work”.



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Originally Posted By: five.five
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there was a room behind the bathroom sink.


Above that room, in the attic is the A/C unit, so thank you Mr. Pope and Mr. Boyett.


Looks like you guys identified the vent tube.


Mr. John, I am fairly certain it wasn’t a bong, by looking and talking with the kids in the home, I’d bet they wouldn’t do anything like that, in fact, they locked themselves, and their dog in a study in the house until I was gone. icon_lol.gif


Mr Dickerson, thanks for the good eye on the p-trap, I guess while scratching my head at the vent tube, I overlooked that.


I am a newby at this and REALLY appreciate all you guys’ valuable advice, comments, and help.


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Originally Posted By: bbadger
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Around here I do not believe that connection would be allowed for a condensate drain.


There is no air gap or vacuum breaker.


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Originally Posted By: jpope
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bbadger wrote:
There is no air gap or vacuum breaker.


It's pretty common practice these days Bob (although requirements do vary). The primary drain line has a trap and vent near the unit and there is no risk of a cross-connection (potable water and waste water).


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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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must be a regional thing…I’ve never run into a condenser in an attic.



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Originally Posted By: bbadger
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jpope wrote:
bbadger wrote:
There is no air gap or vacuum breaker.


It's pretty common practice these days Bob (although requirements do vary).


I think I may live in a restrictive state as far as plumbing goes, for a while even a dishwasher installed like that had to have a counter mounted vacuum breaker.

That requirement has been removed now.

When I see condensate drains brought to sinks they will be placed above the sink rim and simply drain into the sink basin. No 'hard' connections.

Or if need be set up like a clothes washing machine drain, it's own trap with a loose connection between the pipe and the hose.


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Originally Posted By: bbadger
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kmcmahon wrote:
must be a regional thing...I've never run into a condenser in an attic.


Yeah I imagine so. ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif)

Here an air handler in the attic is pretty typical in multi floor houses re-fitted with central AC.


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Originally Posted By: jpope
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kmcmahon wrote:
must be a regional thing...I've never run into a condenser in an attic.


Nor have I. Evaporator coils however, are quite common in attics as part of the FAU.

bbadger wrote:
I think I may live in a restrictive state as far as plumbing goes, for a while even a dishwasher installed like that had to have a counter mounted vacuum breaker.

That requirement has been removed now.


What type of air-gap requirement is there for dishwashers now?

bbadger wrote:
When I see condensate drains brought to sinks they will be placed above the sink rim and simply drain into the sink basin. No 'hard' connections.

Or if need be set up like a clothes washing machine drain, it's own trap with a loose connection between the pipe and the hose.


That's "old school" out here. All new construction has the set up shown in the first post (if the FAU is in the attic).


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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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jpope wrote:
kmcmahon wrote:
must be a regional thing...I've never run into a condenser in an attic.


Nor have I. Evaporator coils however, are quite common in attics as part of the FAU.


Ugh! Give me a break...I just woke up on a Sunday morning before my first cup of coffee when I wrote that! My brain wasn't totally functional! ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)


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Originally Posted By: five.five
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sorry, that is what I meant by A/C unit in attic. icon_redface.gif


I was thinking too regional.


my apologies for the confusion.

Darren


Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Here the condensate would not be allowed to drain into the sewer system. The sewers are metered by water usage. Go figure.