Wall Insulation??

Originally Posted By: kwitchey
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Hi All!!


I have received all call from my local Housing Authority about doing inspection for a new Mortgage program that they will be offering. One of the requirements pertains to exsisiting homes, They want to know if the wall cavities are filled with insulation or not. I don’t know how they expect me to answer that. I don’t have X-ray vision. Any Ideas? I already performed a search of the message board and came up empty.


Thanks in advance for any help
Kent Witchey

P. S. I am looking for non - invasive ways


Originally Posted By: wcampbell
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Kent, Unless you’re Clark KENT, Try this. Remove a switch or outlet wallplate and look around it. Sometimes you can see the insulation in the wall.



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Originally Posted By: kwitchey
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William,


I been called that before but I don’t think that a name will help!!


I thought the same I don’t see any other way. i think it is a case of some one behind a desk with no idea writing requirements for loans–imagine that!!


Thanks! for the response.


Originally Posted By: phinsperger
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Maybe this table would help if you were take temp readings and calculate it out.


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Originally Posted By: phinsperger
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Sorry, Lets try this again


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Originally Posted By: John Murray
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kwitchey wrote:
Hi All!!
I have received all call from my local Housing Authority about doing inspection for a new Mortgage program that they will be offering. One of the requirements pertains to exsisiting homes, They want to know if the wall cavities are filled with insulation or not. I don't know how they expect me to answer that. I don't have X-ray vision. Any Ideas? I already performed a search of the message board and came up empty.

Thanks in advance for any help
Kent Witchey

P. S. I am looking for non - invasive ways


I like William's idea with the wallplate/recepticle removal. You will need to a long screwdriver to probe for insulation. The only accurate way to tell besides poking holes, is to do a thermographic inspection. That will cost $. You could refer them to an engineer that has that equipment. I have not tried this but, you might be able to user a stud sensor. Test it on a wall that does not have insulation and then on one that does. Either it is going to think that the insulation is a stud or it will pick up the stud with less indication than a non insulated wall. This alone would probably not be conclusive but, may give you an idea wheather or not to remove a wallplate.You could also check with the local fire inspector to see if he/she can give you any tips.


Originally Posted By: rsummers
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John they make tools to estimate R-Values thru walls I have 1 and it dose work. There has to be a min Temperature difference of 20 degrees between walls and 7 or 8 different things you have to do to complete the test. I got mine from another HEERS rater who had it for years and couldn’t figure out how to use it. This tool is 24 years old and still works properly I’ve checked it against walls that I knew were R-19 and after following the instructions came up with the same R Value. The Manufacturer is Linear Laboratories. It was bought from Energy Works Ltd 305 E Jefferson Ave Englewood, Co 80010. The phone # 303-762-0676. This business may not be there any more so good luck icon_smile.gif


Originally Posted By: ekartal
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Use a non-conductive probe of some kind not a screwdriver.


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Originally Posted By: John Murray
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rsummers wrote:
John they make tools to estimate R-Values thru walls I have 1 and it dose work. There has to be a min Temperature difference of 20 degrees between walls and 7 or 8 different things you have to do to complete the test. I got mine from another HEERS rater who had it for years and couldn't figure out how to use it. This tool is 24 years old and still works properly I've checked it against walls that I knew were R-19 and after following the instructions came up with the same R Value. The Manufacturer is Linear Laboratories. It was bought from Energy Works Ltd 305 E Jefferson Ave Englewood, Co 80010. The phone # 303-762-0676. This business may not be there any more so good luck



Thanks for the reference!
It sounds as if the test is rather lenghty??


Originally Posted By: John Murray
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ekartal wrote:
Use a non-conductive probe of some kind not a screwdriver.

Erol Kartal
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I usually use a Klein insulated screwdriver when working with electric,
would that work as well?


Originally Posted By: ekartal
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Yeah it would John, but there are many newcomers here that may think probing around behind a receptacle with a metal object is OK.


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Originally Posted By: John Murray
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ekartal wrote:
Yeah it would John, but there are many newcomers here that may think probing around behind a receptacle with a metal object is OK.

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Erol,
I am a "newcomer". In fact I am a very new comer (haven't even began studying to be certified, yet)! I figure if someone is willing to take off a receptacle cover, they have to know that there is juice behind it and can harm them. If not, they have no business working with electric in the first place! Just an opinion. ![icon_surprised.gif](upload://57CELbNgOav4I8DdysEp4jSUiyx.gif)
BTW, I think children are taught about minor electricity hazards in grade school (Fingers/metal objects in sockets, etc.).