What to tell this homeowner

How do you write this stucco up?
http://www.badstucco.com/1coat/1COAT.htm :roll:


looks like a bad mix that dried to fast. or had some other complication. i’d recommend total evaluation and repair from stucco EXPERT. what ever that means.

All of the above Jay.
The bad thing is it is in the same subdivision as most of these!
They were done by the same stucco cooooonnnntractor!
Over osb that just loves water and turns to mold candy. And swells when wet. Therefore makeing more cracks! Letting in more water.
Homeowners dont stand a chance!

neither do their homes. i like the “mold candy” line. can i use that one.

Yes Sir!

hay, i might be younger than you. besides “sir” was a term i used in the navy that means Severly Iritated Rectum. or pain in the *** for short. but realy, thanx.

What makes you think I am older?

i don’t, just that as inspectors go, i’m kinda on the young side. 31 to be excact. plus, Carl is a very old name.ha ha. j/k.

Well you got me!!! I have been doing stucco sence you were 4 years old!
And I am only 44!


1 Coat Stucco. Poor Installation.

Recommend Siding replacement. What is the question?

I was just looking for educated opinions!
Personally I want to tell the people in the hole subdivision to sue the city for letting it happen! The codes officials really dropped the ball! And when I contacted them about it they just blew me off!

Most of thessepictures were taken in the same subdivision!

And then this is what happened in the state capitol. And it is wrong and things need to change!

And I figure if I keep throwing it out and around somebody will see it that has clout and start getting things changed!

At this pointe these houses not only need to be resided but resheathed and probably structural work as well.

And from what I understand it is a nation wide problem!
I am just trying to give other people a heads up on some of the possibilities!

OSB swells and turns moldy rather quick the more it swells the more cracks you guys will see in the stucco and the more it could leak water into the structure!!

Sorry for the RANT!

ps. Hard coat stucco issues are going to put EIFS to shame!

Are you suggesting that 1 Coat Stucco applications are acceptable?

Carl you don’t need to…tell them to look at the neighbors…:smiley:

Not in my book!
Neither are unflashed windows and trim. Nor housewrap with the flashing over it instead of under it! With all the horizontal joints taped and sill flashing that is reversed lap! And that is how they say to install tyvek! So the houses are set up to fail and thats just some of the housewrap issues!
Most of the premixed onecoat products on the market I have seen the sand is to fine and it causes alot of cracks!

A couple of questions on this.
What type of mesh are they using on the OSB to apply the stucco to?
Are they sealing the bottom edges of the OSB and if so how?
Since wood products expand and contract during the seasons, how do they apply the stucco to counteract against expansion and contraction with two very different products? wood and cement
Last question, since this does not appear to be a Traditional Stucco application, is this type of application considered a hybrid?

I have noticed in my area, that the contractors here are starting to use this type of stucco application on new construction, so I am very curious on the service life and known problems associated with this.

Thanks for your help.

Hope this helps you!

Get a warranty

I recently spoke to the sales director for the largest exterior stucco installer in the northeast. I asked him about this very problem. It’s a pretty common one. The stucco set up too quickly, and cracking occurrs. Nothing to do but remove it and re-apply.

There are retarders which can be added to the stucco to help prevent this sort of stuff. Also, it is typically required to re-wet the stucco after application, to help prevent this. It’s almost never done, as there is no time.

How should one write it up? Describe what you see. There is only one thing to be concerned with: is the stucco defective? The answer is yes.

My advice is to never get into too much detail, especially when you cannot see the substrate or attachment materials used, were not there during application, cannot verify the conditions present at the time of install, and dont know anything about the mix used (content, methodology, etc).

Bottom line…Its defective. It is cracked. It is unacceptable, and if left in its current condition, may lead to other problems. Recommend further evaluation by a qualified stucco contractor.

i think the retarders were the ones who applied the stucco the first time.

This is the general practice that I follow with regard to reporting of Hard Coat Masonry Stucco.