What would you say

Hardi board pinning nails to close to the bottom Btw this was observed on 3 walls of a new home. Pinning was less than 3/4 of inch in some areas 1/8 of inch


At least you commented Jeffery lol .

But am I wrong? I see nothing with what you stated, just make it an actual statement.

I did and added to contact the manufacture rep

I don’t know where the “pins” you refer to would be. Do you have any pictures? The Installation instructions don’t show any visible “pins”.

Wayne all these years and not one picture ?

“Pinning” is a ‘verb’, not a ‘noun’ in this instance.

(Guess “Southern” California doesn’t really translate to “Southern” United States)!

Here you go BOB many where hard to see
Link for siding www.jameshardie.com/d2w/installation/hardieplank-hz5-us-en.pdf

Poor install of the siding many loose pieces , Missing trims , Open places and so on


Hmmmm surprised no comments.I do know the " pinning nails" phrase confused me .

Here is a graphic from my PDF …your link was bad for me on my phone earlier. no good on cpu either ]

Note : it says blind nailing preferred but shows how to face nail.

You did mention other issues however so pretty obvious you would call out a non standard install with issues and suggest install may void warranty on the siding should there be future issues.

I have read there are Hardi reps that can visit sites in the past if not mistaken.

The questions is, was there blind nailing as well? If there was, then unless this is in a “high wind” area, it is wrong.

What IYO Stephen will be the actual issue potentially ?

Blind nailing done also , not a high wind area . I have inform the owner to call the local rep . I have a feeling this guy will be doing it all over again . Grading was a mess, Pillars where a mess, and we will not even mention all the trim issues lol

It may look fine today, but how will it stand up next year?

I put links in the report of the install manual so the client has something to stick in the contractors face.

I might refrain from having the client do more research on the subject as they may not do it (or do it right) and come back on you anyway if it fails. They don’t need to research “How” it should be done, just know that it is not to mfg spec.

They can bring it up to the contractor and require him to prove that it is OK from the mfg. rather than arguing if it is right or wrong. You know the contractor is going to say “That’s how we do it here, where are you from?”. The client may just back down…

This goes for anything like this.
Codes is another big one. Instead of trying to figure if it is right or wrong, give them the code and let the contractor and code guy tell them it’s ok the way it is.

No one is going to fix anything unless they perceive that is is wrong.
Instead of saying “That’s wrong, and the mfg says so”, simply ask them to explain why they elected to do it a different way than in the mfg’s directions.

Follow the TN HI Standards. It is our job to Observe, Document and Report.
Nothing more.

According to the TN HI Law you must classify all defects in one of three ways (I have yet to see anyone comply with this).

In this case: “Requires further investigation by a Specialist:” is the correct choice.

I’ve seen the results. This stuff expands and contracts. Where the lazy contractors nail the corners to make it look pretty and lay flat, after a couple seasons, those corners almost all crack. See it all the time.

I have personally called the James Hardie Co. warranty department. Their response was, the warranty is void if not installed per their specifications. Just like every manufacturer of just about every product, if you don’t do it correctly, they will weasel out of their warranty.