Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
That’s called “someone knocked the cardboard cover off the panel” and the painter never asked if it was OK. That is a red tag here. My wife has had to replace panels if they couldn’t get all the paint out.
Originally Posted By: bbadger This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
At the jobs I work any panels that had been contaminated as much as those photos would end up in the dumpster.
The painters would be back charged time and materials for the replacements.
Believe me it does not take more than a few of these back charges to make the painting company remember to be more careful.
The general contractors we work for all have provisions in the contracts that require all trades to respect the other trades work.
It is funny, a painter has no problem understanding why they can not get over spray on windows, doors floors, rugs but when it comes to switches, plugs and panels they seem to forget......until they pay us to replace them. 
-- Bob Badger
Electrical Construction & Maintenance
Moderator at ECN
Originally Posted By: jtedesco This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
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110.12(C) Integrity of Electrical Equipment and Connections.
Internal parts of electrical equipment, including busbars, wiring terminals, insulators, and other surfaces, shall not be damaged or contaminated by foreign materials such as paint, plaster, cleaners, abrasives, or corrosive residues.
There shall be no damaged parts that may adversely affect safe operation or mechanical strength of the equipment such as parts that are broken; bent; cut; or deteriorated by corrosion, chemical action, or overheating.
Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Bob you must have better painters. When they shoot the texture here everything gets painted if it isn’t covered up. They do that before tile, carpet, cabinets or anything else you don’t want white and pebbly. The windows are usually covered but if they aren’t, they get spray on them. The exterior lock sets get swapped out for the customer lock before the close so they get painted too.
There is always finger pointing when the panel gets sprayed. The painter says it should have been covered.
Originally Posted By: bbadger This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Greg Fretwell wrote:
There is always finger pointing when the panel gets sprayed. The painter says it should have been covered.
There does not have to be with a better or more experienced GC, all the subs sign roughly the same agreement that we will not mess up the other trades work.
If I damage the door frames bringing in equipment I can not say 'they should have been covered' the response from the GC would be;
You should have exercised more care bringing in your equipment.
or
You should have covered the door frames yourself.
A great example of this happened on a job we did with a lot of EMT exposed on the bar joist ceiling.
The job needed to have fireproofing sprayed on the bar joists, the specifications said it could not be on the EMT.
We warned the fire proofer in writing they ignored the warning, they claimed we had to cover it all with plastic we said no.
They sprayed it all..........they also spent a few weeks cleaning it off all the raceways till it they looked new. 
The GC enforced the contract.
-- Bob Badger
Electrical Construction & Maintenance
Moderator at ECN
