Would you enter crawl space?

Originally Posted By: Joe Funderburk
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Joe Funderburk
York County, SC
Alpha & Omega Home Inspection, LLC
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Originally Posted By: rbennett
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How did you get a pix of my house?


Yes with care

rlb


Originally Posted By: jrivera
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probably, but not with my street clothes thats for sure. go in as deep as possible and hopefully be able to just zoom in with the camera and get the heck out


Originally Posted By: lkage
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rbennett wrote:


Yes with care




Same...the crawl space tells too much not to get as much info from it as possible, safely.


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Originally Posted By: John Bowman
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Absolutely. No Ifs, Ands, or Buts.


Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Yes.


Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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heck yeah…that looks like a CLEAN crawl compared to some I have worked in…lol…love how the ROMEX is the last thing thought of when thinking about supporting electrical wires under the house correctly.


Think the original AHJ did not like the crawl either...lol


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Originally Posted By: dandersen
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The inspectors are not required to:

C. Enter or access any area which may, in the opinion of the inspector, to be unsafe or risk personal safety.

D. Enter crawlspaces or other areas that are unsafe or not readily accessible.



Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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Also guys…be very careful in a crawl like this not becasue it is dirty but signs that the electrical wires MAY be laying on the ground…and if you notice moisture in the crawl…electricity and moisture ( ie: water ) do not mix and may or many NOT have caused a OCPD trip…older breakers may NOT trip…


Also......this is MY opinion in being in this field so long..( Electrical ) is that breakers tend to have a life expectancy of 20-25 years....many last longer but the problems I find in breakers that do not trip or overheat has to do with age....

Just figured I would toss that in.....nothing lasts forever and even less under heat....


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Originally Posted By: jwortham
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What would you all consider to be the minumum clearance you would navigate a crawl in?


I did a home on Thursday that was 16 inches between the ground and the floor joists.

I didn't crawl it. Could see myself getting stuck in a situation I didn't want to be in.

Any opinions?


Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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I need to be able to turn around so that I don’t have to back out in case of trouble, like fire ants, snakes, rats, etc. Usually for me that is around 18" to two feet of head room.


Originally Posted By: Joe Funderburk
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This was the main crawl space right inside the intrance door. It was about 30 inches high at that area. I did enter a little ways and take zoom photos of the electrical hazards and additional support beams put in inadequately. But many areas I was not able to access, including under the kitchen and bathroom floors. I disclaimed it of course.


I am not comfortable with having any type of electrical lines contact my body, whether the ground is wet or dry. I do not go in areas where they dangle on me. If they are on the ground, and many of these were, and I can safely do the 2-step over them, then I do so. But if I have to be a gymnast in order to be safe, I don't risk it. I have a family that I want to be around a little while longer.

Any electrician who would wire a house like this, I do not feel comfortable trusting my life to him.


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Originally Posted By: dedwards
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I think you would be on pretty safe ground calling for an electrician to correct all the improperly installed and unsafe wiring and I would probably go on and use the dreaded “F” word (further analysis) for the rest of the electrical system. When I start to rack up pages of discrepancies on any system it is time to call in the expert who can take the time to fully dissect the system and find all the “hidden” flaws as well as the obvious ones you found.