Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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I will do some additional digging for you as we most certainly do not want a builder getting the upper hand on you...lol....
Heres the logic behind my submission to NEC 2008 -If the person must ENTER the bedroom and thus INSIDE the bedroom that all recepts and outlets ( exluding baseboard heat and dedicated AC units ) MUST be on ARC Fault including the closet outlets.
However you refering to the image which is just a method of wiring a room to AFCi and not the gospel of it as I did not make this image and I do not think it is trying to show the closet has to be on AFCI...only that the circuit that supplies it is on AFCI which means it must also because of that fact.
Why do I feel this way.....
Their is in most cases only one entrance location to this bedroom in most parts making only one egress point. The concept of the bedroom being on ARC FAULT contends that the closet is located within the bedroom thus making it part of the bedroom in general but again I am not sure why a EC would run a circuit to pick up plugs in a closet of a bedroom when they can pick it up via the circuit that is already their....NOW this is MY OPINION and what I have submitted to NEC for the 2008 revision...but again only my opinion.
Now if these are recepts. that are dedicated for a purpose like security panel and so on......he would have a great argument to have them on their own circuit because 1.) they never entered the room and 2.) they can't afford to be tripped by a AFCI for security concerns.
Now brings in the tricky part......per the NEC the switch to a light within the closet is not considered an outlet and thus the way the 2002 code is written it would not be required to be ARC Fault...now from a practicle point I am not sure why a EC would not put it on ARC FAULT since it is right their and easy to add it to the circuit......
If the switch controls utilization equipment in the bedroom, then it will be AFCI protected. However, if the switch operates lighting outlets for outdoor luminaire, closets or other loads not terminated in bedroom space then AFCI protection is not NEC required, because a switch is not considered an outlet ( yet in the definitions for outlet it is not so clear ).
So...now I have confused you even more.........
Basically......the NEC 2008 should address this better I believe but again if the circuit inside the closet it NOT part of the bedroom branch circuit then it just may be considered outside of the bedroom...this ends up being a AHJ decision as to me it is still technically within the bedroom but again I am not on the NEC Board....if the electrician wires the plugs onto the same circuit as the bedroom then they most certainly will need to be on AFCI....becomes a really grey area and arguments for both can happen which is probably why you had yours.
P.S......Next time I promise to use Spell Check...I have corrected myself like 4 times now.....GEEESSHH
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