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#1

Originally Posted By: jmichalski
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The steel support column in the center of the basement is visibly bent. A screw jack was installed to support a sagging section of floor (near refrigerator)


No other evidence of any sagging, or other damage due to shifting was noted anywhere on the interior, exterior, or on the foundation wall.


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Any opinions on the cause and severity of the problem? I am particularly perplexed by what would bend a steel column but not show up elsewhere.

Thanks for your thoughts!

#2

Originally Posted By: lkage
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Heavy duty rough-housing in the basement?


Be honest with you I don't see the bend but I do see the one post duct taped. Does it have maybe some minimal padding too?

Knew some kids that dislodged one completely at a Habitat for Humanity house that the volunteers either forgot or didn't know it was supposed to be attached top and bottom. ![icon_eek.gif](upload://yuxgmvDDEGIQPAyP9sRnK0D0CCY.gif) It was quite bent.

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#3

Originally Posted By: ckratzer
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Joseph


The column looks more like it just isn't straight which could mean it was built that way.
The constructor probably just didn't bother to make it plumb.Because the bottom is poured into the floor a person couldn't even give it a wack at the top to plumb it.Even if a person could plumb it you would probably raise the floor a quarter to a half inch.Since the column is not the screw type it could not be lowered to accomodate that.

I don't believe there is a problem at all.Just inattention to detail.

#4

Originally Posted By: jmichalski
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It is more of a situation where it is out of center and it does appear to be constructed that way. (No kids in the home to roughhouse).


Thanks, I just really wanted some other opinions. I value your input.

#5

Originally Posted By: Jay Moge
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it does apear strait, but not plumb. if you inlarge the pic, place your finger in the screen right t the edge of the column, now scroll down with your mouse and see were your finger ends up. in the middle of the column, so i’d guess the integrity is compromised by about 50% and the lean suggest undue horazontal stress on the I-beam. monitor for stress at base of column and when that happens, call a pro to fix it. icon_cool.gif

#6

Originally Posted By: dspencer
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You be suprised on how a home owner fixs a squeeky floor. If the joist aren’t knotched and are not split I see no need for addtional support. Floor squeek brackets would be the fix…I would have to examine for myself so don’t qoute me!

#7

Originally Posted By: Steven Brewster
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Ok this is what I see and it may be just an optical illusion produced by the camera lense. The I beam appears to sag on both sides of the support column. If a straight edge is placed between both ends of the beam you will see the sag. Could this be real or illusion ? The HVAC supply duct behind the beam does not have the same sagging illusion.


Of course the support column is not plumb. What is the spacing between the support columns? Single story or multi? I don't have any idea what size and span this type beam is designed for. Maybe the PE's can assist.

#8

Originally Posted By: wdecker
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When in doubt, call it out and recommend bringing in a licensed and insured PROFESSIONAL Structural Engineer. PASS the liability to the specialist WHENEVER you are in doubt.


Serves your client and you. We are NOT know it all experts. We are GENERALISTS!

Hope this helps.

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#9

Originally Posted By: jmichalski
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Thanks, guys! The I beam may indeed have some curve but it wasmnot nearly as obvious in person as the column was.


The home is a standard two story colonial, 33 years old. Spacing on the joists and columns seemed appropriate but I didn't take a measurement.

It was a pee-listing inspection, so I noted it, and suggested getting a cert from a structural engineer since another HI for the buyer will likely recommend the same.

Thanks for all the advice and looks - it is much appreciated!

#10

Originally Posted By: cmccann
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A Pee-Listing? I bet he wasn’t to pleased with your peeing on his home!

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#11

Originally Posted By: wdecker
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THey were trying to sell an out house.


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