Asbestos

Originally Posted By: berby
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Do anyone have a pic. of asbestos? I inspected a 1959 year old house yesterday. The insulation was a grayish dull white fiber. If it is asbestos who do i refer the buyer to call for help to inspect it for them.


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Originally Posted By: berby
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Thanks Jeff, but how does it looks when used as insulation in a attic


Originally Posted By: berby
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Also Jeff, what i saw looked like loose- fill insulation but it was grayish looking. Could it be rock wool. I’m just wondering because of age of house


Originally Posted By: jwortham
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I am by NO means an insulation specialist.


This is an image I got from Maines EPA site

![](upload://hpU9lq9ryqqyDGOpQvGkpty7kC4.jpeg)

And this one from Health Canada.



If in doubt, call it out as "possible asbestos-like material" and recommend a specialist evaluate it.

Worst that happens is you are wrong.


Originally Posted By: berby
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Thanks Jefff for the pics, What i saw was nothing like that. I would have taken a pic but i left my camra at the house.


Originally Posted By: gquackenbush
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Just a note. The previous pics are vermiculite which may or may not contain asbestos. icon_smile.gif


Originally Posted By: jwortham
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Thanks Gerry!


Forgot my disclaimer! ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)


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Originally Posted By: mlong
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Barron,


It's possible that what you're seeing is loose rock wool, but without a picture it impossible to say for sure. I know that loose fill rock wool was used in some homes, at least in the east, during the fifties. Not sure about how long prior to that or after that. My parents had it in their home which was built in '53.

Rock wool is typically light gray in color and looks somewhat similar to lambs wool.


Originally Posted By: dsmith1
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I would say that the grayish fill could be cellulose, which is gound up paper treated for fire and mildew.


I never state anything is asbestos, always state that it may be asbestos and it should be verified by a lab and detail the possible health hazards ect.


Originally Posted By: dsmith1
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http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/c/cellulose.jpg ]


Originally Posted By: aslimack
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Thats not celulose, thats blown-in fiberglass.


Adam, A Plus


Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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the vermiculite, or zonolite posted above…has anyone ever sen this type of material in a gas log fireplace. I saw a substance that looks just like it but the house was built in 90…anyone seen this?


Originally Posted By: aslimack
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Yes i have, but i but sorry to say knew nothing about it at the time or now. That was pre-inspection days for me and i simply wasn’t curious enough to find out more. Now i wish i did…


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Originally Posted By: mlong
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bkelly1 wrote:
the vermiculite, or zonolite posted above..has anyone ever sen this type of material in a gas log fireplace. I saw a substance that looks just like it but the house was built in 90..anyone seen this?



Vermiculite, as well as rock wool, fiber embers, rock embers, sand (NG) have all been used in gas fireplaces and on or around gas logs for a number of years and are currently used today.

(I've been working in the hearth appliance industry for a number of years)

Mark Long


Originally Posted By: dsmith1
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Adam,


I was just going to ignore your post but couldn't let it go. Maybe more people would participate in the message boards rather than just reading if other members where not so aggressive. We are all here to learn more about the business and help each other.
I have been around long enough to know the difference between cellulose and fiberglass insulation, they do not resemble each other in anyway. The photo was of cellulose insulation which is fairly common in this area.

Have a good day,

David ![icon_rolleyes.gif](upload://iqxt7ABYC2TEBomNkCmZARIrQr6.gif) [/quote]


Originally Posted By: dhadler
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David, I’m not taking sides but when I clicked on to your photo, that’s exactly what I said to myself too. That’s blown in fiberglass.


BUT, I realize that photos don't always do justice ![icon_question.gif](upload://t2zemjDOQRADd4xSC3xOot86t0m.gif)


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Darrell Hadler
Five Star Home Inspections
Medicine Hat, Alberta CANADA

Originally Posted By: aslimack
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David,


Sorry if you thought i was being aggressive. That was not the intention. As you said, we are all here to learn and , as i used to install this produst professionally, i felt learning it wrong wouldn’t be very helpful and may get someone in trouble down the road. It could be the photo as dhadler suggested, but what my eyes are telling me is its a loose fiberglass that i used to install miles of. Sorry again if you mistook my correction as aggressive.


Adam, A Plus


Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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Mark, If these can be used in fireplaces, why not in attics?