Originally Posted By: jruppert This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Following up on Nicks message regarding ASHI educational credits, Jim Jones of ASHI indicated that all good quality educational programs will qualify for one ASHI education credit per hour of education.
Originally Posted By: dfrend This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
I imagine ASHI “gave” NACHI the credits. But organizations putting classes on have to pay , I believe, $10 per credit per class. I don’t think this carries over for say the same class 2 months later. They do lower the fee to $5 per credit for affiliate members who pay the $600 a year.
Originally Posted By: gjohnson This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
When I was trying to get ASHI credit for two of the classes NHITI is teaching. At first they told me it was $5 per credit. Then after I submitted that app, they told me since we were not affiliates, which is around $637.00 that the price would be $15.00 per credit. You are talking the difference of $35 to $105
They do carry for a year though.
-- Gary (Snicker's) Johnson - Free NACHOS
The NACHI Foundation
Executive Director
Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
That’s the most outrageous thing I’ve ever heard!!!
The only person interested in attending a class because it is approved for ASHI continuing education credits would be an ASHI member.
ASHI charging the school to receive ASHI continuing education credits raises the cost to the school which raises the cost to the ASHI member attending (everything is passed on of course). This is a deterent not an incentive for ASHI members to seek continuing education.
This is really nothing more than an indirect way of ASHI bilking its own members. I don't even think the scheme is very well disguised. It is transparent to me anyway.
It is just another hidden ASHI tax on ASHI members who want to learn more and improve their profession. Don't become their tax collector.
Do ASHI members know what their actual costs of membership really are?
Originally Posted By: Scott Patterson This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Lets set a few things straight:
1. ASHI has not approved this course. The ASHI staff and or the ASHI Education Committee has not approved the 8 hour Electrical Course.
2. ASHI does not charge its members for CE hours.
3. ASHI will review and will approve education courses that have merit. Those courses that are not put on by an ASHI Chapter, are for profit or by another association are charged a fee of $15 per hour.
4. Any NACHI course can be approved for ASHI MRC education credits if the proper forms and materials are submitted and if required the appropriate fees paid.
Scott Patterson
ASHI National Education Charmian
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Originally Posted By: Scott Patterson This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
gromicko wrote:
Scott:
How does your last post straighten out this additional hidden ASHI tax on ASHI members who are just trying to improve?
Nick
Nick you are like talking to a wall! You twist everything to your benefit and distort the truth so much that it is hard to tell when it is Nick the person talking or Nick the salesman selling NACHI or are they one in the same.
This is not a tax on ASHI members, it a fee that is charged to providers who wish to have an endorsement from ASHI and it is not an ASHI chapter. Those that want to profit by using the ASHI name should pay, don't you agree. (I doubt you will) By having an endorsement from ASHI this will increase the attendance. It is up to you if you want to charge or not charge for a session. I would think that it would be foolish not to charge non members.
Do you think that NAR would let you market an education class to Realtors with a NAR endorsement if you did not pay NAR a little fee or the state association a fee for using their name as an endorsement? I can tell that they won't allow it unless it is approved by them and you pay the appropriate fee.
NAHI charges fees to non members to use the NAHI name as an endorsement.
I have nothing against you or you origination, in fact I like several of your members and have met a few at various HI functions around the country. I even try to help your members and non members with questions now and then.
With as much money as NACHI (4000+- members @$280 each) has in the bank you should not scoff at paying $120 to have an 8 hour class approved.
Originally Posted By: jpeck This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Scott Patterson wrote:
This is not a tax on ASHI members, it a fee that is charged to providers who wish to have an endorsement from ASHI and it is not an ASHI chapter.
And you think the provider of the class is not going to pass that cost on to the ASHI members in attendance?
Scott Patterson wrote:
Those that want to profit by using the ASHI name should pay, don't you agree.
And when the fee gets passed on to the ASHI members, who profits? Only one I can think of is ASHI. Scott, I do believe you missed Nick's point on this one.
Originally Posted By: jmyers This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Scott,
I have to agree with Jerry and Nick on this one. ASHI should not be penalizing members who wish to further their education, just because the provider is not an ASHI member.
Further you are not using the ASHI name you are simply stating what you are offering is considered approved by the ASHI organization.
Originally Posted By: dbowers This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Scott -
As a 20 year ASHI Member and a Trainer (PITI) we have about 9-11 CE classes approved by ASHI for credit. Each year we pay $10-$15 per credit hour to get the same class we taught and got approved last year reapproved for this year.
We also have them approved by NACHI, NAHI, MAREI (Missouri Association of Real Estate Inspectors), KAREI (Kansas Association of Real Estate Inspectors), and the State engineering boards. So far ASHI has been the only HI group that charges us for this.
Saying the class is approved by ASHI does not make the bells jingle. We usually get as many or more of other HI Association's Members or of unaffiliated HI's just wanting to learn.
Originally Posted By: gjohnson This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Dan,
I have to agree with you. My fledging school has gotten approval from about 6 different groups. And none but ASHI wanted to charge me for their credits.
It is not that I wanted to use the name. But to be able to provide better services and help out all members of our industry.
-- Gary (Snicker's) Johnson - Free NACHOS
The NACHI Foundation
Executive Director
Originally Posted By: jpeck This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Gary, Dan,
It is all because of the way ASHI and some of its members think of themselves.
I am ASHI (13 years and still counting, how much longer, I don't know) and I dislike that better-than-thou-so-you-got-to-pay-for-it attitude. Sept may be it for me (MAY be, not sure as yet).
