Bathroom / Toilet only

Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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Inspected a home that is being renovated.


Builder is adding a toilet to a former closet area within the Kitchen. A sink is not being installed within this bathroom area. Toilet only.

This does not appear to be very sanitary to have a Toilet only within a Kitchen.

Is there a code requirement/reference for a sink to be installed in this type of bathroom arrangement.?


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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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There is a sink…Kitchen sink. icon_wink.gif


Unless it’s a commercial establishment, I would doubt it’s a requirement. Although, I do think it’s a requirement of new homes to have bath with toilet, sink and shower/and/or tub.



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Originally Posted By: ekartal
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Half bath has to have at least a sink. I believe it’s not a bathroom without one, therefore illegal.


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Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Joe,


It is NOT a bathroom then.

A bathroom, by definition, is (in the NEC) "Bathroom. An area including a basin with one or more of the following: a toilet, a tub, or a shower."

From the IRC:

"BATHROOM. An area, including a basin, with one or more of the following: a toilet, a tub or a shower."

And,

"BATHROOM GROUP. A group of fixtures, including or excluding a bidet, consisting of a water closet, lavatory, and bathtub or shower. Such fixtures are located together on the same floor level."

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Originally Posted By: tallen
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Jerry hit it. It is not a bathroom. Therefore it is a water closet. Sorry don’t know the code for this . I would not right it up. Water closet off the kitchen no recomended service.This is not unusuall, lots of toilets off of the kitchen . They are just toilets . icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif



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Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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Thanks for the responses.


I am finishing that report now.


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Originally Posted By: jpeck
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I would write it up as being unsanitary (no basin), and also state that it is NOT a bathroom. Thus, if the house was 2 1/2 baths, and this was the ‘1/2’ bath, it was really only a 2 bathroom house. That should have some financial impact on lowering the price.



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Originally Posted By: wengelking
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As an appraisor, we consider a toilet only as a 1/4 bath. As an inspector, I still consider it a 1/4 bath, although I would comment (only) that no lav in the same room.


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Isn’t this disgusting…I had no words. icon_eek.gif icon_eek.gif


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Look on the bright side. The purple is not too bad. icon_smile.gif



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Originally Posted By: dvalley
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William,


I've had a couple of those nasty nose-blocking vacant home inspections. I'm amazed that people can live that way.
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Originally Posted By: kwilliams
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old police trick, when the smell is so bad you can’t stand it, but you have to be there, carry some vicks in your bag of tricks, dab a little in nose.



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Originally Posted By: kwilliams
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dvalley wrote:
William,

I've had a couple of those nasty nose-blocking vacant home inspections. I'm amazed that people can live that way.
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Vacant ??? I've been in places that I had to use the vicks and the people still lived there


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David Valley


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Originally Posted By: Brian A. Goodman
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That reminds me of traveling when I was a kid. Before there were any convienence stores you could only “go” at gas stations. It seemed like 1/3 of them looked like that. When the convienence stores came along and started serving food (and had to meet health dept. guidelines) it was a great day for America.