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#1

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Because … Lampholders are not fixtures and are not allowed in clothes closets!


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#2

Originally Posted By: dedwards
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Someone needs to tell these clodhoppers around here. These are found in almost every closet.

#3

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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… and they represent a potential fire hazard!


How many have you overlooked during your inspections!

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#4

Originally Posted By: bgentry
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They are allowed in utility closets, though, right?

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Bradley S. Gentry


Superior Home Inspection, LLC


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Elkton, VA


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#5

Originally Posted By: Monte Lunde
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Thanks Joe


I will remember this, have not reported this setup in the past

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Monte Lunde CCI, CCPM, CRI
Viking Construction Services Inc.

#6

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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bgentry wrote:
They are allowed in utility closets, though, right?


Yes, just for Luminaires (Fixtures) in Clothes Closets.

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Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

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#7

Originally Posted By: bgentry
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Thanks, Joe.

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Bradley S. Gentry


Superior Home Inspection, LLC


Harrisonburg, Charlottesville, &


Elkton, VA


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#8

Originally Posted By: aleleika
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Thanks Joe, This was great information to pass along.

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A. Dan Leleika


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#9

Originally Posted By: rhinck
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Joe,


I call these out every time. My question is can I state that an enclosed fixture is required OR use a flourescent bulb with a screw-in base?



Rick

#10

Originally Posted By: ckratzer
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Just a little more to add to the fixture in the closet thing.


The most current home I built was just called on this issue.It seems even city codes inspectors could not agree.


The fixtures I put in closets are can fixtures.My rough mechanical inspection report stated that at finish these fixtures needed to be covered with a lense because of the potential fire hazzard of open fixtures because of things on shelves coming into contact with said fixture.Easy enough fix.


My final inspection brought a different codes inspector who said that in addition to the cover the fixture must also be 6" away from an imaginary verticle plane of the nose of a closet shelf.


So if you have shelves in any closet regardless of what you call that closet my thinking is ,based upon how code reads, the covered fixture/6" rule would apply.


I do recall reading in 2003 IRC that a florescent bulb is o.k. It’s a vague recollection so you might have to check me on that.


Oh and by the way it is a real pain to move a light fixture 2" from its existing location because no one is really sure what code is really saying.


Cheremie

#11

Originally Posted By: jmurphy1
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Joe: The pictures you’re showing are the only kinds of lights I’ve ever seen in a closet.


What's wrong with having these kinds of lights in a closet?

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#12

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Because they have been known to be the cause of a fire when the exposed lamp made contact with combustible materials


Read through the following thread for some actual experiences:

http://electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002147.html

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Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

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#13

Originally Posted By: jmurphy1
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Thank you Joe. I had no idea. icon_biggrin.gif


By the way, have you ever seen closet light switches that turn the light on/off when the door opens/closes?

Thanks again! ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

#14

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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You are welcome.


Yes, they are door switches.

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Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

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#15

Originally Posted By: jmurphy1
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Thanks Joe, I’m hoping someone here in wichita will invite you to teach a class. I’ve submitted your info to the Board of Realtors Office and the guy that handles classes and scheduling was on vacation last week. If you hear anything from him would you let me know?


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#16

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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OK John, I will. Come to this seminar in the St. Louis area. next month


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Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

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#17

Originally Posted By: rcloyd
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Joe,


These electrical tips that you post are great!! keep em coming! ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

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Russell G. Cloyd
Intra-Spec Home Inspections
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#18

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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My pleasure Russell:


Here's another item I would like to mention:

Space for Cove Lighting

Coves must have adequate space and are required to be located so that lamps and equipment can be properly installed and maintained.

I've found some strange types of installations in those spaces, including open wire used to supply fluorescent fixtures, no connectors, and even a small panel!

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Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

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#19

Originally Posted By: cthompson
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Hey Joe, New member here, reader, and occasional poster.


Those are very important comments.

I'm a fire investigator (22+ years) and part time HI. I'm retiring in two years and plan to go HI full time. HI business is good, even part time.

I've had closet fires that were attributed IMO to this example. Not many, but a few.

The clearance in closets is of utmost importance. People are careless.

I usually write up a good amount of safety comments in my reports. This is one of them.

Thanks,

Charles Thompson

#20

Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Would you still point it out if the lampholder was using a compact fluorescent bulb?

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Joe Myers


A & N Inspections, Inc.


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