Thanks I was hoping you really had some good ideas but I guess you are just showing your disdain for NACHI and its members .
Please continue to make sure this infomation seen here is posted to the other Canadian lists so every one realizes how good NACHI is for information . Thanks for you offers.
Roy Cooke
Please, Roy, do not confuse my disdain for you and Ray and maybe three or four others with how I feel about the entire NACHI membership. The rest of the members who use this forum seem for the most part to be professional people. Every association has its fair share of bad apples. With NACHI it happens to be you, Ray and your ill-informed posse.
Norm
Another good point Dave. Every association has its fair share of bad apples. With OAHI it happens to be Dave Bottoms Associate member for over 8 years, and Editor of the Canadian Home Inspector Magazine! So much for CAHPI displaying a professional image. With Bill Mullen and Dave Bottoms jaw bones always flapping indespensible bull we can all sleep better knowing that you two show the world your desperation to make something made out of lead fly!
Thanks Dave! You’da man!
Thanks Ray. If anyone should know, it’s you. Few can boast the illustrious title of all-around bad apple in three different associations. Your mother must be very proud.
And for the record, I couldn’t care less if you call me Dave or whoever. Just don’t call me late for dinner. 
Now, as I said before: There’s really no sense in you making any more of a fool of yourself, is there?
Norm
Thanks Dave, a number of people have been informing me that a number of your posts were removed along with Tom Lloyds outrageous comments from the CAFE.
I guess people in OAHI have finally had enough of your foolishness. Its also obvious that many Nachi members see through your stupidity as do a good number of OAHI members. Some are downright disgusted that you would stoop so low as to threaten people, send virusus, and foul emails. Apparently even Audbrey LeBlanc has been dismayed by what you and others have been upto. Its amazing who I run into at cocktail parties. Its sure is a small world.
Ray,
Not really sure who those folks are and not really interested. You seem to have an unhealthy fascination/obsession with one of them, though, which is causing you to once again float off topic. Have you ever considered getting help for that?
I understand that you must try to convince others you know who I am, but don’t delude yourself into believing anyone really cares.
So are you done making a fool of yourself or you got more nonsense to say?
Norm
Dave
Thanks again for helping Nachi big guy!
So that’s it, you’re done with your nonsense for today?
Norm
[FONT=Arial]----- Original Message ----- [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]From:[/FONT][FONT=Arial] Bill Mullen [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]To:[/FONT][FONT=Arial] gchambers@scsinternet.com [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Sent:[/FONT][FONT=Arial] Friday, December 31, 2004 11:19 AM[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Subject:[/FONT][FONT=Arial] [Canuck HI] National Inititiative[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]For many years, the organized Canadian Home Inspection industry has been working hard to develop consistent training and certification across Canada. The hope is to establish a benchmark for the quality of Home Inspections done. The CHIBO projects have given birth to CAHPI, which was created to include all home inspectors in the country.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]The final drafts of the accreditation and certification models are done and are now receiving in-depth studying by the CHIBO working group. We hope to have them released very soon and start the ratification and adoption process.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]The CHIBO group has always come under severe criticism for taking so long to get things done. There were many reasons for the various delays, but some of the criticisms were valid and the committees have improved.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Now that the end is in site, another challenge has raised its ugly head.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]NACHI, an American-owned group of Home Inspectors, has challenged the authority and the results of all of the work that has been done. NACHI is privately owned, so they do not need to answer to any shareholders, members***[FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial], or stakeholders[/FONT]********. ***[FONT=Arial]Their professional certification requirements exclude the need for education, training or experience in home inspection.[/FONT] In essence, their goal is to ‘dumb-down’ the Home Inspection profession in Canada [FONT=Arial]as they have attempted in the U.S.,[/FONT] and they see the National Initiative as a real threat to this goal.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Of course it is a threat !!! We want nothing less than to be recognized as skilled, professional practitioners.[FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial] The only honest and ethical way to accomplish that is to raise the bar across Canada by creating a level playing field made up of truly qualified home inspection professionals. [/FONT]* [/FONT][/FONT]*
[FONT=Arial]If NACHI is successful, many years and hundreds of thousands of dollars will have been wasted. Even worse, Canadian Home Inspectors will not [FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial]only lose what credibility we have garnered over the years,[/FONT] but will be***[FONT=Arial]dismissed by the public and the media[/FONT]***as a bunch of undisciplined, untrained bucketheads. That fits well into their plan in which any rube with no knowledge or training can claim to be a ‘Certified Home Inspector’ [FONT=Arial]with the passing of a simple online quiz.[/FONT] [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]I realize that many of you are NACHI members. You have every right to belong to NACHI and as many associations as you wish. Please just take some time to find out what Nick’s motives really are. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]If we want a strong, well qualified Canadian Home Inspection profession of which we can be proud, now is the time to show it.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Not surprisingly, two people who are well known here are pushing for***[FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial]the dumbing-down of our profession in an effort to please their masters[/FONT]********[FONT=Arial]at[/FONT]****NACHI. Wand and Cooke will not be happy until they do some real damage to our livelihoods. Their rage and hate have blinded them badly, and now that they ****[FONT=Arial]have come to realize [/FONT]they[FONT=Arial]have chosen[/FONT]***the wrong team, they’re even more angry. [FONT=Arial]It’s a shame this U.S. organization is threatening the future of our profession in Canada with the help of these two people.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Bill Mullen RHI[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]CAHPI INSPECTIONS BY CAHPI INSPECTORS[/FONT]
Thanks Dave for reminding me. I have some others posts that will no doubt live in infamy.
So how about now? You done with your nonsense for today?
Norm :lol:
Merry Christmas Dave! I hope 2007 is more productive for you, than it has been in the last eight years. :mrgreen:
Norm??? sorry it is too bad you had a chance to try and improve things but you are I am sorry to say very very useless.
You come into our home and do not tell the truth.
Do not have the courage to say where you live anduse a phony name .
When you get pulled up with all your lies and phony posts you run away and hide .
You then go on the CAFE and say all those post under my name where no made by me .
It is that Ray and Roy who are using those false names .
Well just like last year you still have trouble telling the truth . 8 years and still have not completed 100 inspections OAHI must be some afraid of you to have let this happen.
You are now on my ignore list.
Tell Bill we did not treat you well either
You still show how envious you are of NACHI.
Roy Cooke
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Roy its Christmas Eve, be gentle. 
Is there any sense of my posting my real name, Roy? You and Ray already think you know who I am, so lets just go with that. Anyway, if I told you you’d never believe me. Since you two are so desperate for me to be Dave, then just call me Dave. Like I said earlier, it doesn’t matter to me. Plus, since it’s rare for either of you to have a clue what you’re talking about, no one’s going to give a stitch of credence to anything coming out of your trap.
Norm
Raymond:
Here are some quotes you might want to include. I have no regrets for saying what I did in the past, but that was a long time ago, and my goals and thoughts have changed a bit since then. In the meantime for the past year I have tried to work with Mr. Gromicko to bring more civility and cooperation to this industry, although he doesn’t seem willing to admit to it on this forum…Bill Mullen
Inspection News Forum: March 10, 2005 - 5:26 am
I thought many of you would be happy to know I have requested my removal
from the NACHI membership. Seems NACHI is not interested in ethics or the
COE, rather they appear to be interested in taking your money, and building
a membership void of the administrative ability or the will to act
ethically.
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
Inspection News Forum: March 10, 2005 - 12:26 pm
Adam
Okay I admit it, I came over here to get revenge. Your right you know more
than me about the goings on in NACHI as it relates to Ontario.
Any organization that would have me as a member is not worth being a member of.
I also think you can’t handle the truth.
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
Inspection News Forum: March 10, 2005 - 7:36 pm
In the back of my mind I have always had reservations about NACHI, but
played along because OAHI had it own problems. I always wondered where NACHI was getting its money, so much so that I thought perhaps money laundering was involved. I also had reservations about some of the players in NACHI up in Ontario who deserted OAHI and went with NACHI and appointed themselves executives and directors. Well now I know that there are likely ulterior motives by them and perhaps opportunistic is the best word to describe some of the goings on.
Raymond: We all make mistakes and we all shoot off our mouth and regret it later. Why not give our colleagues a Christmas present and bury the hatchet once and for all and work towards unifying the industry? I don’t really care what association someone wants to join, as long as we all reach for a better future for our fellow inspectors. Nick and I have discussed several ways this could be done, but it will never get off the ground if we keep sniping at each other…Bill M.
Bill I think that would be great idea lets hope it happens .
Roy Cooke
Worth repeating
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Mullen
*Raymond: We all make mistakes and we all shoot off our mouth and regret it later. Why not give our colleagues a Christmas present and bury the hatchet once and for all and work towards unifying the industry? I don’t really care what association someone wants to join, as long as we all reach for a better future for our fellow inspectors. Nick and I have discussed several ways this could be done, but it will never get off the ground if we keep sniping at each other…Bill M.
*
Worth repeating
Yuri sorry you do not know the whole story.
And it is not worth repeating.
Ray and myself and a couple of others have been trying to get information for years, If we had not been so iriating you and others would have no information .
Bill’s Post would have meant much more if he had of just not put in his digs at Raymond and his post at10:58.
His post would have looked better if he had of just been polite.
For Your Information Bill has done this same thing last christmas and the one before, I sure hope he wants to put the past behind and leave the digs behind us too.
Some one will say why am I saying this but as per usual it was Bill M
who did not leave the digs behind.
I to have lots of letters.
Roy Cooke Hoping for us to get along.
Bill your post would have been nicer if you had left out all those post’s you too have made lots that could be dragged up.
Roy Cooke
Funny, you didn’t criticize Ray for dragging up the past in his post (and Ray didn’t even temper it with an olive branch like Bill did).
You seem to have one set of rules for Ray and the rest of your posse and another for everyone else. :roll:
Merry Hypocritical Christmas to you and your family, Roy!
Norm