Hey Bill thanks for pointing out my various comments. You and Dave must have been busy last night digging those up. 
Your right Bill we all make mistakes, I admit to mine as listed and quoted by you above I have never recanted nor denied making those comments, everyone is aware of them. Its old, and stale.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Hey, I had them at my fingertips, so it was no problem finding them.
Everyone is also aware of my old stale comments that you and Roy insist on reviving over and over again. I was merely pointing out that there is no merit in bringing up the past as if it happened yesterday. It’s counter-productive at a time that we should all be working together to make this a better and credible industry.
Instead of concentrating on the perceived or real shortcomings of each other and our various associations, why not espouse the best of each and help everyone?
I’m very willing to try (as Nick could attest if he wanted) to help all inspectors, regardless of their affiliation or lack thereof. We don’t have to like each other, but we also don’t have to attack each other. Let’s all put the past behind us and see if we can’t make 2007 ‘the year of cooperation and inclusion’.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !!!
Bill Mullen
hope you all had a great christmas…its sad to see that even after 2 years of not being on this site that things haven’t changed…the oahi isn’t any closer to being the one and only god of home inspection in ontario and the bad mouthing and name calling is still the same…i’m sure glad i haven’t wasted any money or time on lowering myself to be part of any of it…i’m sure i’ll be long gone before anything solid will come from the oahi or whatever they call themselves these days and am very glad i haven’t lower myself to their standards…sure i’ve been asked if i’m part of any organization of home inspectors and definitely tell my customers that my inspections far exceed the requirements of any so called professional inspectors club plus i’m too busy to waste my time on what they may consider education…you want some real education…try getting your hands dirty…you will never learn anything worthwhile from a text book in this business…experience in the construction field is the only true education
have fun all
tom
Merry Christmas to you and yours. Excellent thoughts. I just fired my doctored because it turns out the smuck went to school to learn to practice medicine. What an a-hole. I want a doctor who has never seen the inside of a text book, let alone a classroom. One who has learned by hands-on experience alone. After all, you’re not going to learn brain surgery by going to school and reading books. You learn by years of trial and error, and then taking an online quiz. That’s the way it should be. Those pompous a-holes who think college or university degree is better than an online quiz simply don’t know what they are talking about. They get their schooling then show off by using proper “punctuation” and other grammar stuff. Show-offs and know-it-alls, the bunch of 'em.
You got it right, Tom. Any Professional Engineer, Architect, Lawyer, Doctor, Accountant, or Scientist who went to school to get their degree in their chosen vocation just wasted four to eight years of their life.
Imagine what a better place the world would be if everyone could simply skip schooling altogether by writing an online quiz. Imagine all the time that would free up for drinking beer and farting. School is for dummies. Hands-on experience coupled with an easy online quiz is the real path to knowledge. As Pink Floyd says, “We don’t need no education…We don’t need no source control…”
I think the Home Inspection Industry should strive to become the most poorly educated profession on earth, and NACHI should lead the way! Our motto could be, “We mite not gots no formal edgumacation in building construction or building science, but at leesed we past an online quizz!” I know we can do it, we just need to try harder. How about at every NACHI meeting, anyone wishing to attend only gets in if he or she brings at least three books to be burned. And the first member who can prove he has no books and hasn’t read anything more complicated than the drive-thru menu under an oversized clown’s head gets to be the next NACHI president!!!
Thanks for your words of, um, wisdom? Have yourself a “vary Mary Education-Free Crissmus!”
Norm
Ouch.
No ouch needed Wendy. I read those statements at I.N. when they were originally posted, as did thousands of others. Raymond has stated he does not deny or regret those statements; Mr Mullin has said the same about his own statements. But they both state that times and people do change. Good enough for me.
Bill
You are not trying hard enough and your post with Ray’s [past] comments proves it.
I do believe however that you are willing as you say to help all inspectors with the NC.Without ALL inspectors [regardless of affiliation ] participating in the National Certificate program your Certificate #00001 is not worth the paper it’s written on. I could go on but I won’t. You know exactly what I’m talking about.
Happy New Year to you as well Bill.
Just to clear up any misconceptions unlike others who are in official positions, I am not here speaking in any official capacity, nor do I hold any official positions within any home inspection association. Unlike a few others within CAHPI-OAHI such as the Editor in Chief of the Canadian Home Inspector Magazine I am free to comment as I wish, but cannot be accused of abusing
Those that represent a so called official self regulating body need to remind themselves of their positions and what they represent and what they have relayed. There can be no mistaking their roles and their positions since their positions are well known. So much so that at least one has resorted to false identities to ensure his name is not associated with his editorial roles and official capacity.
In that case I need to repeat a paragraph from my very first message:
“I am here as a private home inspector, and I will be giving my presentation at the convention as a private home inspector. I just happen to have a lot more information on one particular topic than almost anyone else, and I am happy to share it. Neither my presence here nor at the convention is sponsored by CAHPI. They are aware of it, but have neither encouraged or discouraged it.”
Bill Mullen
I agree with Mario, Bill. There are rules on this forum: ones for people like Ray and ones for you. In Ray’s case, he gets to trash you, your association and the National Certification Program at every opportunity, including submitting ancient posts from you. In your case, you are required to take his bull$hit without so much as even a peep, for fear of being accused of having a bad attitude.
Simply, Ray gets to be an abusive idiot, and your role is to take his abuse without question or comment. Sure, it’s totally hypocritical, but what do you expect from people who probably have to dig out a dictionary to find the meaning of “hypocritical.”
Norm 
Sorry Bill, not good enough. Your role here is whatever Raymond decides it is. If he decides you are representing CAHPI, then his little sheep will all follow along with that thought and ignore your plainly written position on the matter. You have to keep in mind, they don’t think for themselves. They think whatever Raymond tells them to think. After all, Raymond is the self-appointed sheppard here. If anyone gets out of hand (as in doesn’t tow the Raymond party line) they will get slapped with a hissy fit of monuMental proportions.
Bahhhh… bahhhh… blacksheep…
Norm
Bill can you give use an update to what the final out come was with all the PDI inspections that the Canadian Home Inspectors where to be going to do .
Many Home Inspectors spent a lot of money to become Qualified and I have heard nothing after the following letter…
I am wondering how we the Canadian Home Inspector can be sure the NC is not going to go the way the (Whistler PDI inspection training) seems to have gone .
Great ideas that seem to have fallen apart.
Roy Cooke
Read below and Weep!!!_________________________________________________ ______________
#&$&(* wrote:
As one of the attendees at the conference, I offer the following comments.
I’m sure the organizers were pleased with the turnout at the conference, however I became quite disappointed during the first day session where it became evident that the PDI inspection training session was not playing out as I and others had been led to believe it would. What I had understood was going to take place was that those of us attending this session, plus any who attended future training sessions, would be the only people capable of carrying out what was to amount to approximately 220,000 PDI inspections annually across Canada, and that this was something that was about to be inplemented in the very near future. As things turn out, the home building industry has not yet agreed to or climbed on board with this initiative; that even when (or if) they do, this is not going to be a mandatory process; that there is no restriction of any kind on who may carry out this type of inspection once it does come to be; that their are two completely separate types of inspections for which protocols are being developed (one is a Performance inspection and the other is a Contract Compliance inspection) and it will be entirely at the buyer’s discretion whether any of them are carried out, and the cost will be coming out of their pocket. The session also was not an official training session but more of a discussion and information and idea-sharing exercise with no clear answer at the end of the day what exactly those of us who attended had achieved. A diploma/certificate was recieved although it was not made definitively clear just what value this diploma might actually have.
Attending the PDI course was my only reason for attending the CAHPI conference. With a rather significant cost of over $1,500 to do so, I figured that with the expectations being talked about with this new initiative, that it would certainly pay for itself. The rest of the sessions I found somewhat interesting but certainly wouldn’t have considered going to Whistler for 4 days if it had not been for the PDI course being put on, not to mention the cost of leaving my one-person business unattended for that period of time.
I heard similar comments from other attendees so I know I’m not the only one who thinks there was some pretty siginificant misinformation being distributed prior to the conference about what the PDI training session was supposed to entail. I will be more careful about any similar types of training sessions such as this in the future.
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Dave, I think you are extremely jealous that you don’t hold court or have as much sway as I do!
Eat your heart out big guy!
Hey Norm, Raymond just instructed me to tell you to shut up! (Actually he told me to tell you a bunch of other stuff but the words were multisyllabic and I have to look them up in that word book thingy. Stay tuned.):mrgreen: :mrgreen: </IMG></IMG>
We all Know Dave is trying to show how silly he is .
I think the thing that pi$$e$ him of the most is to be ignored .
I have decided no matter what name he post’s under I will just ignore him and have a good laugh about it because I know he is going to be upset .
He has a bunch and when they do not work he tries another .
We can all talk about him and his silly aliases on Saturday ,
his ear’s will be burning knowing how we all will know how silly he is .
I expect Bill will do his usuall shuffel and say nothing or he just might go and Hide again he does both when he has no answer.
Roy Cooke … Royshomeinspection.com .
Roy:
It took less than two days for you to break the ‘truce’ that I thought we had all reached so we could move forward. Sorry Roy, I will not lower myself to your level and start throwing crap.
I made it clear several days ago that I would not be answering anything until May because of the treatment I have received. In fact, in light of the hostility, lack of respect, and obvious lack of any desire to get along with anyone who dares to disagree with you, many questions just might go unanswered for even longer.
To clarify something that seems to be missed by some of you…CAHPI does not need you to participate in the National Certification Program. We already have enough people eagerly interested to make it viable. All CAHPI needs to do is make it available and offer to explain the details. We have done both. I have offered a number of times to provide information, and all I asked in return was a bit of respect. If you don’t have the information you need to make the correct decision, it’s because you decided to “shoot the messenger”.
Please try to get along. I can’t understand why you are determined to be disruptive. I will not become involved in a useless dialoge with you now or anytime.
My private e-mail is still available for politely asked questions.(But not by you, Roy, under any circumstances)
Bill Mullen
As I have said before Bill seems to get upset very easy with me and my questions .
He again unfortunately has shown his contempt for me .
While I am sorry for Bill he always continues to show he can not take any criticism but he sure does like to Post his openions .
I am so glad Bill comes to our NACHI BB to see what is going on and to keep him self up to date . It is so unfortunate he does not allow any one to talk on his BB the way he talks on ours . It is also to bad the CAHPI BB was shut down so that many who wish information about CAHPI could get it . Bill was Chair when so many things where started and fell on their a$$.
This CAHPI is the same association who has not acknowledged that NACHI offered their members The opportunity to attend the NACHI Conference at NACHI Members prices . This CAHPI is also the same Association who has not acknowledged that they Could Have a free both at the NACHI May Conference in Toronto . This CAHPI Association did not make the same offer to NACHI members to come and see how well they run a conference and all the displays that where there . This Bill Mullen is the same Guy who offer an Olive Branch new years 2005 and broke his word in less the 12 hours and he has the nerve to ridicule me on our BB when we the NACHI members get very littel information on what he says about us .
Bill likes to give it out but can not stand it coming back .
Bill I could work with you tomorrow as I do not carry a grudge but unfortunately I do not think you could sit and talk with me with out getting upset .
Happy New year to you and Carol fro Char and Roy
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Roy Cooke
PS. Bill I have never been asked to set up a truth with you .
Would I , I would love to but have a hard time thinking you mean what you say, past records show me what you are really like .
Wow, “multisyllabic,” look at you with the big fancy words, George. Did you learn that one from hands-on experience or by way of an online quiz? :shock: You better slow down there, Roy’s still scratching his head over the word “book.”
Norm (Just teasing ya)
That’s odd. You said you were going to put him on your ignore list yesterday, yet here you are today bitching about him some more. :lol: Tell the truth, Roy, are you in love with him or just infatuated with him? Does your wife ever get jealous of how much you talk about Dave?
Norm :mrgreen:
Roy,
I think it’s just that Bill has a low tolertance for idiots and imbeciles, and you fit both bills. Can’t blame him for that. :roll:
Norm