A close look at Stephens website is very telling. http://www.northerninspectiongroup.com/
Unbelievable that he feels superior. I wonder if he has been sued yet? (See highlighted statement above). I would also question how he can justify performing inspections for $225 including GST and the items listed below, for homes up to 3,000 sq.ft.!!!
Instills confidence, doesn’t it???
During the advisory meetings with the AB gov Both InterNACHI and CAHPI representatives recommended Part 9 of the ABC but the AB gov choose to ignore that requirement. IMHO this was a mistake especially since most of the carpet bagger trainers do not have correct code information in their course content.
Thanks for the update Vern it is good to see that portion working out.
Ontario still can’t make its mind up. I guess they will continue to be behind.
**As for the references to money paid for referials the following Alberta regulations may be prohibit such avtivity. **
Prohibitions
**26(1) **Neither a home inspection business nor a home inspector shall disclose the contents of a home inspection report, except
(a) with the written permission of the consumer,
(b) as required by law, or
© if, in the opinion of the home inspector, there is a serious health or safety risk.
(2) A home inspection business shall not enter into a home inspection contract if the home inspection would result in a conflict of interest for the home inspection business or a home inspector employed or otherwise engaged by the home inspection business.
(3) A conflict of interest under subsection (2) includes a payment from a person other than the person for whom the home inspection report is to be prepared.
(4) A home inspector shall not conduct a home inspection if the home inspection would result in a conflict of interest for the home inspector.
(5) A conflict of interest under subsection (4) includes a payment for a home inspection from a person other than the home inspection business.
(6) Neither a home inspector nor a home inspection business shall provide a consumer with an estimate of the cost of any repair or improvement to a dwelling as a result of a home inspection.
So more to the point - there’s a difference between “continuing education” and “training leading to certification”.
What we offer is continuing education as well as our version of mentoring called onsite training.
The education is based on what we delivered as a extremely successful program for Humber College for approximayely 10 years.
Yes, I wouldn’t want to insult the free website provided by InterNACHI, I’d much rather insult a school that is approved By them and bases their learning materials and final exam from their entry requirements and Standards of Practice. Great advice…
Ps-Not bang on. Not even close.
You must be on the go writing 630 rude posts on InterNACHI a year. 3,771 posts in 6 years, that’s a lot of missed opportunities.
Thanks for showing me the dark side of this great association.
But I’d much rather go back to work…
So your saying this school is ran just like the ASHI requirments you can’t stand? Seems kinda weird to support a school but be against its process, that makes no sense to me.
LMAO…your right, your 4 weeks in the business and ready to teach. Do you even have 500 inspections under your belt?
Your home inspection start at $275 then you have the $50 kick back so that is a whopping $225. And your the leader of the up and coming inspectors? You seem to put a value on the price of your education. I would rather spend $4000 on an education where someone can speak and teach from experience and real life what they have seen and what will happen, rather than spend $1000 on someone regurgitating](regurgitating - Search) the NACHI books.
And please don’t make fun of my website it really hurts me. I can see that your vast experience has lead you to buying referals. Some people just get them with honest, superior hard work. Some gotta pay $50.
I am very desperate for work, its a tough world out there. I am looking to increase my market share everyday and hopefully I will get more and more business. LAst year was a dissapointing 1082 Home Inspections, 1376 Mold tests, and 773 Radon tests.
I am working thard to bring those numbers up, and thanks for the encouragement. I do see you have a wonderful website, did you get ANYONE to give you a google plus one yet?
Keep working and get those young inspectors out there making that $225 an inspection. Way to try and keep the profession in the toilet.
Russel you’re assuming again. Markets dictate prices that includes home inspectors. Check your math too- your numbers are sounding impossible again. Funny that you work so much but have hours to spend ripping apart other inspectors on a message board and researching their websites. Sounds like you may be embellishing. Must be some pretty quick inspections. I’d question the quality. And it doesn’t matter how many gmail accounts you make for yourself to give yourself +1’s. Everyone knows its a trick that dishonest business owners use to boost their google relevance. So pat yourself on the back and get back to the 18 inspections you have to do today. Get some rest, you’ve got another 18-25 to do tomorrow according to your numbers.
And what dark disgusting crevasse did you pull out the number 4 weeks for my experience? For a guy that has SO much education, your reading,research and math skills suck. I’d hate to see your reports.
*isnt it a gas having your professional life picked a part by a complete stranger Russ?
Hey Russel 4 of those Certifications you have look very familiar. Are you missing a few. LOL
Busy working again huh boss? How’s that website coming along?
Pssst, stud muffin I am a multi inspector firm, but I guess you wouldn’t catch on to that. Not too bright are ya? Markets do not dictate pricing neither. People willing to take a ton of responsibility for nothing is what is ruining the market (you).
Why isn’t there a $25 car? Because no one makes one! See, if people like you would become professional instead of bottom feeding you would understand this concept. But instead your going to create more bottom feeders. Isn’t that just wonderful. I see why after l;ooking at your site you have no experience and the company seems relatively new. So I guess who you have no real credentials or experience to offer, bottom feeding is your last choice.
Do you think if Home Inspections where $450 that people wouldn’t pay that? YOUR WRONG. Know why people only want to pay $225, because not to swift of people are doing them for $225. Its YOU who dictates the market. But, once again, you just don’t understand it.
It people like you who screw it all up. Make it cheap for people to enter the field, make the profession into a $15 dollar an hour job. Soon people will have to pay $50 for referals! O’wait your already doing that.
So what else do you have for me? Do the math on that! Its called being professional. People here do inspections for $199.00 why aren’t they getting ALL the jobs if that is what the market dicates?
Its ok buddy, you will never understand the profession and you will never get it. The thing that gets me is your going to screw your Canadian brothers with unleashing more unprofessional people into the world of Home Inspections. $1000 to read a book to someone, thats not a deal at all.
Checking a report on a house you never seen. That makes no sense at all. But then again, its not about the profession it about you having to bottom feed and devising a way to make a living because apparently your Code of Ethics Violations bribing people and paying them $50 for a referal speaks volumes. Most people who deal with professionals give their name away for free gladly…and some have to pay for it.
Which are you again?
I’m the person who gets a lot of inspections and a lot of referrals. Most if not all of my referrals are given to past clients who refer their family or friends who ask for the $50 to be discounted on their inspection. Also, agents are not eligable for this offer as it is a huge conflict of interest and they can lose their license for doing so. I’m not bribing anyone. I’m offering an incentive to keep my company on their mind when speaking of an inspector. They may not need it, but its a nice motivator. Word-Of-Mouth is crucial in this business as you know. I’m sure if you were offered a referral fee from another inspector or comapny you would be sure to help them if you know they are a good and repuatable.
I’m sorry if you are irritated by this. But in a city with the lowest employment rate in the country and a housing market that is just climbing out of the bowels of hell, I personally think the homebuyers in my area deserve a little break. Thats only my opinion, and it is I who am willing to give up that money to do so. This region has a going rate of around $300 for professional Home Inspections. Across the river in Detroit the average is $200. I would prefer to do an inspection for a price the community is willing to pay then have them either not have an inspection and risk buying a potential disaster, or have one of the many uneducated & uncertified gentleman do it for $100 and get nothing for their money. I understand that inspectors are worth more in some areas. When a home is listed at $500,000, then yes an inspection for $500 or more is not that unreasonable. But when single family homes are going for around $140,000, I feel that $275 is well priced. Would I like to charge more? Of course! Certified Professional Inspectors are worth it. But not now, and not here.
My opinions and the opinions of my partners, are mirrored in the price of the Home Inspector training at CACHI. Education is out of reach for most in this country. Education and personal development should not be a privilage only for the elite. Our program offers education to those who are eager and willing to learn. Everyone has to start somewhere, and that is no different in any industry. Education is an ongoing process for inspectors, that is why all associations require it. Our students learn everything they need to get confortable with the job of inpecting homes and into a world calss association. It is from that point that they can flurish. Hundreds of hours of education, training and certifiactions await them!
You have done quite a bit of online training through InterNACHI as posted on your website. But when did Mr Gromicko come to your home and teach you hands on and proctor your online exams? Was your online training not good enough for you to start charging extra to you clients for things like Pool & Spa Inspections, Log Homes, Mold & Air Quality, and other ancilliary services? Think about it.
The worst thing I can think of is someone never even having an opportunity to get started. We have all been new at this business. But we didn’t start off by knowing it all. It took years of educating ourselves above and beyond the rquired training and making mistakes along the way to make us who we are today. We’ve all had a “bad” inspection or two in our past, but how many of us have taken from that and improved ourselves because of it? It doesn’t mean you’re not good, it just means that no matter how many inspections you have done in your career; be it 100 or 10,000 there is always room to learn and improve. I think that we can all agree on that.
A new big College sign installed at the corner of New paved Highway in my town.
Guess what it says!
Sault College Home Inspection
Guess where it is located!
Right before the Truss center.
Yes I noticed a student is WARNED to come prepared.
That SHOULD NOT BE NECESSARY.
They can rewrite the exam as many times as they need when ever they need to. Well I guess.
At $200 dollars a POP. Now I could be wrong but I see money as the common denomnator for failure.
Yes they do need to come prepared with a Tent, Sleeping bag and a big fat wallet.:D:lol::lol::lol:
Sounds like that old saying applies
Those that can do and those that can’t teach.
Speaking of doing when are we going to be able to talk about the CCHI exams?
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think stephan has a horrible idea. I think education is needed very much and mentorship is extremely important. If a seasoned inspector shows ALL the BS we have to go through, I mean the writing the reports at night, answering calls to stupid questions, getting emails from people who are totally confused because their Realtor told them it was really nothing and we made a big deal out of it, then let them see the tools you own and how much they cost, and then setting up all that equipment, and then answering the 100000000000 questions while on the inspection.
I bet 75-80%% would re-think getting into the business. It has has been my experience so far. Out of about the 25 people who did ride alongs, maybe 5 are still doing inspections.
It’s alot more than people think, and the real way to know is to look back on your own career and think of what you DIDN’T know when you first started out. But then people think that is an excuse to do it. Well he did it that way, why can’t I?
Well there really is no excuse for poor inspections anymore. Nachi has a ton of education to look at, the tools are much more sophisticated, computers are a ton better, the software is top notch. This isn’t like it was 10-12 years ago.
Yet people still want to meet the minimum standards. Well something only calls for ----- hours, so lets keep it at that! Lets take 50 NACHI credit hours. Man there is a WORLD of difference between reading a book and inspecting a house. You see stuff that seems impossible and get asked questions from people who have no education to a guy who has a PhD in Mechanical Engineering and asking you about HVAC systems and how they work. Its not because THEY don’t know, it’s because he is making sure YOU know what your doing.
He then asked for input and then gets totally mad when it was given. How can a person review the adequecy and competnecy of an inspection by looking at a report on a house they never saw? Does that make sense to any RATIONAL person who has been in the profession over 2 years?
It is what it is, and it will be what it will be…I am just looking formward to waking up in the moring and seeing this post as reported, to be slanderous, liable, super meany guy…whatever it is.
Hi Joe, just wanted to give a shout out to Joe Farsetta when he reads this!