I believe we are talkin’ GAS here.
You are full of it! Yep!
I think we’re all in agreement about the ready access. I didn’t want people to think that the shut off valve being in the same room is a hard rule. Vented decorative appliances and room heaters is an exception.
Read through the post it’s an example of code compliance vs home astetics.
This is a globe valve and not a shut off valve. This would not be accepted as a fuel shut off valve. What is does is regulate gas flow. There should be a fuel shut off valve up stream.
This is why you are full of it…
I see those valves occasionally up here too. Oddly, the first one I ever ran into was turned off and there was no key, a year or so later I found a key at the dump! By trhen I knew what it was for, haven’t seen one since.
Maybe the rest of the country isn’t as perfect as Florida…come on Florida LOL. I’m sure homes on slabs have shut off valves in the wall with access panels for fireplaces and log lighters. Do they have valves in the walls for silcock? NOPE!
Good point…and up here, if it is not now, it used to be a hard rule because of the AHJ locally.
Thanks, Bob. 
Wherever the gas valve is it has to be …
G2420.5 (409.5) Equipment shutoff valve. Each appliance shall be provided with a shutoff valve separate from the appliance. The shutoff valve shall be located in the same room as the appliance, not further than 6 feet (1829 mm) from the appliance, and shall be installed upstream from the union, connector or quick disconnect device it serves. Such shutoff valves shall be provided with access.
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- Exception: Shutoff valves for vented decorative appliances and decorative appliances for installation in vented fireplaces shall not be prohibited from being installed in an area remote from the appliance where such valves are provided with ready access. Such valves shall be permanently identified and shall serve no other equipment .
Ideally, the shut off would be nearby for 1) service 2) emergency
One could argue that locating the shut off in a crawl space would not make it “ready access” and would place it in a “concealed space”. While the crawl space is not ideal location for the shutoff, AHJ could’ve approved it. However, you could still write it up and explain it… make the client aware what it is, what it is used for, and where it was installed. Then let the client worry about it. I find them outside behind the exterior wall where the fireplace is installed and am okay with it. Crawl space… It would depend on the house how I called it out.
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The AHJ agrees the crawlspace is ready access.
Accessible, Readily (Readily Accessible). Capable of being reached quickly for operation, renewal, or inspections without requiring those to whom ready access is requisite to actions such as to use tools, to climb over or remove obstacles, or to resort to portable ladders, and so forth.
Wouldn’t it help to know what kind of unit is in question and what the requirements are for gas cocks and or shut offs are required for the unit to meet the gas code?
I have often thought about the idea that the shutoff for the range should be under the range. I don’t know if that is readily available in a range fire.
Same for a fireplace insert John. Look where the valve is before the install the insert.
And there is also a gas cock readily accessible in the bottom of the unit.
Then of course you have your outside tank or gas meter, which ever applies.
This unvented wall heater was supplied by the pipe on the right and the valve was located in the adjacent utility room. I’m not sure that fire is the intended purpose of the service valve.
OMG. You probably regret your post by now.
I installed a direct vent fireplace in my own home. The shut-off is behind the glass/screen assembly under a panel. I would not recommend opening these up. On the occasion that I run into these out in the field, I simply test the fireplace using the remote and note that the emergency gas shut-off was not visible. You may also want to use your combustible gas detector and include a picture of the reading in your report.
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Thanks Wow I am amazed at the responses!