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I no longer hold any position on the PHPIC Board of Directors and have no say in its operation.
However, I will say that members of the Advisory Council are that only…advisors. They have no control over how the organization operates. They are, however, very valuable sounding boards for ideas. Kim Courtney is very well qualified to be an advisor because of her unique knowledge of our jobs.
Kim’s husband, who is also the PHPIC President, of course runs a course about once a year for about fifteen people. It hardly makes them rich, and his students come from all over, rarelt from PHPIC or PHPIO.
In today’s environment, where fewer than 5% of inspectors are willing to volunteer at all, and 95% sit on their rear ends hoping someone else does all the work, overlaps sometimes can’t be helped. Ethics and other Board members are there to ensure everything is on the up and up.

I find it strange that you have never complained about similar situations concerning Alan Carson or Graham Clark. They certainly were and still are in potentailly huge conflicts of interest due to the many tentacles of Carson Dunlop, but even though I used them as an example, I have no problem with their involvement, as long as it is public and ethical, and it always has been with them and with the PHPIC President.

In Paul Wilson’s case, Claude’s, mine and many others, I can guarantee that they have each spent and lost more money trying to improve our industry than most inspectors earn in a year.

In a perfect world, things would certainly happen a bit differently. However, as long as the volunteer pool is outnumbered by the apathetic and the critical, those in some positions will have the odd perceived conflict and will have to ensure they carry out their duties properly.

I guarantee that if a few more people volunteered and committed to perform the duties diligently and faithfully, many current leaders, including Paul, Claude and myself, would be pleased to step down…in fact, someone would likely get hurt in the stampede.

Bill Mullen

Bill, you have spent years telling anyone who would listen that there is a problem with inspector competence in Canada.

You have gone to the press.
You have gone to the government.
You have gone to the Realtors.
You have gone to other trade associations.

And in each case you have represented every Home Inspector in Canada as ‘incompetent’, ‘dangerous’, ‘cowboys’ and worse. And based on that assumption you have constructed the national programme which is, by your own admission, built to address this alleged shortcoming.

Bill, you cannot blame the great majority of Canadian Home Inspectors for wanting to know what you based these claims upon. You cannot complain about Canadian Inspectors, and those would be the same inspectors who have been defamed by these claims, for wanting to see proof of these claims.

"How it can be bad to raise the bar and make our industry look more professional is a mystery, but you seem to reject that idea."

It is no mystery Bill. You have raised the bar so high that only a tiny fraction of Canadian Inspectors are interested in jumping over it. You have claimed that by raising the bar you can ‘solve’ the problem of Inspector incompetence and protect the home buying public. But you have no proof that there is a problem of such huge magnitude or proof that your raised bar can solve it.

At the same time your system abandons ‘newbees’ and those deemed unfit to fend for themselves. How you can claim to have any influence in the market place, any influence with Canadian Inspectors, or any ability to protect the public is the real mystery when you have effectively abandoned the huge majority of Canadian Inspectors.

While we are looking at this, please produce any proof that I have ever stated that i am against raising the bar of Inspector Qualification for Canadian Inspectors. I am just against raising it so high that nobody is interested in trying to gain that accreditation. And that is exactly what has happened.

A body with 500 people certified is hardly dead !!!

Let’s be honest Bill. Accepting Ray’s estimate of up to 7000 inspectors practicing in Canada ( and Ray’s estimates are as accurate as your or mine - are you beginning to understand why we want facts not estimates for answers to the “BIG 3”?); and using figures supplied by you (accepting that you have 500 people certified ,although you have said that the actual number is less than 500 but for this example lets use today’s number) that would indicate that, after almost ten years of effort and the expenditure of millions of dollars, (regardless of where they came from), the national has attracted 7.14285% of practicing Canadian Home Inspectors.

Well Bill, if the national isn’t dead after the collapse, the law suits, the infighting, and the reality of having attracted less than 10% of Canadian Inspectors after ten years, then it has proven itself entirely irrelevant to the industry. But I would still check for a pulse.:wink:

Am I hanging the future of the industry on these three questions? No. But you have been doing so for ten years and now Canadian Inspectors are asking you the questions that should have been asked and answered ten years ago.

HOW MANY INSPECTORS ARE THERE IN CANADA?
HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETED / YEAR?
HOW MANY OF THESE INSPECTIONS LEAD TO MINOR / MAJOR CLIENT COMPLAINT.


Because you see Bill, until someone has a clear picture of the failure rate of Canadian Inspectors, all claims about how incompetent or how competent they are, are meaningless. And you have labeled us all incompetent.

You also falsely accuse people of trying to raise the bar based by fear-mongering. It is you who have used the derogatory terms and blamed 'industry leaders for that. How it can be bad to raise the bar and make our industry look more professional is a mystery, but you seem to reject that idea.
Excuse me If George has made some false information . He is still far behind you and your Cohorts
You have called some idiots and even worse

In Canada , a strong national certification program has been established, with a credible National Occupational Standards document created through a defendable, collaborative process.
10% ~ is far from strong 90% are in the NCP
Looking at this, my impression is that there is not a strong immediate need for additional consumer protection in the professional home inspection world, and the argument for licensing is not compelling.

You say not a strong need . Then why the HE&& have you been pushing this for many years
The Cost is huge and now you say not needed .
Another huge cost that we now know was not needed
Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Bill has a big announcement coming soon
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103

Come on Bill you and Claude are not happy with OAHI and not happy with CAHPI have been going to quit many times have tried hard to undermined them .
Now you come to our home all the time to try and sell your Program at a huge cost and zero returns .
Bill your BS is not wanted and not needed
You make your own rules and when you where a NACHI member did not even follow our rules .
Shame on you Bill Fair play is not your way so why not stay away.