Originally Posted By: dharris
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Dammm, Thats going to hurt
Dammm, Thats going to hurt
Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Nice job Michael! Where’s my knife?
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Originally Posted By: Brian A. Goodman
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Arizona clearly has some hoops to jump through, before becoming licensed. Right or wrong, we need to find a path within the existing system, or work to change the system if it is, indeed, broken.
Good attitude Joe.
I add my compliments to those already given to Mike, who actually went out and got answers from people who knew. Great job Mike.
On Justin's situation, I have to say that if he never performed or agreed to perform any inspections, and didn't tell any potential clients he was licensed, I can't see much justice in whacking him with a big fine. The heavy artillary should be saved for those out to profit by deciet, not the honest errors or oversights.
Nick, I'm mailing you a machete. 
Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Send me the machete, and provided Justin doesn’t get fined $5,000.00… I’ll only use it on my face.
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Originally Posted By: dharris
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How’s that, Dandy Dan?[/quote]
I hope this puts a halt on this type of posts prior to determining what really is going on here or anywhere else
From what i've seen we do have a professional unbiased group of people
working hard to represent AZ HI's, with that said I would encourage any AZ HI's that have a problem, question or concern about the licensing process or grievances take it to your state board prior to nick or nachi 1st, and I encourage everyone to attend a open board meeting to see in person the effort and profesionalizm the board members exhibit when addressing licensing and issues that arise
When nick states that the btr is under government investigation instead of the fact that a HI inspector is under review by the btr ,I have to wonder if the high altitude really affects his thought process prior to making posts like this one and others
Guys if you have a problem with the btr you may get more action by going to the people that represent us than the neighbor hood bully
If you want to make changes join the professionals that are working for you instead of some psycho that thinks the way to make changes is to send threating emails and sue everybody
Originally Posted By: mcraig
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Thank you all for your recognition it was gruling for me to face some of the people I had to deal with yesterday, but you know what I found in the end is that if NACHI wants to be respected and belevable in Arizona there is a lot of work that would need to be done. Also I found yesterday that I am disapointed in some of our members here in Arizona that have not properly conducted there business this is a black eye on all of us in NACHI it reflects a bad image of us here that is hard to overcome we are not percieved as equal or better than ASHI here at this point and time. I can’t defend NACHI here by myself and I can’t get any other Qualified NACHI members to help. So with this said I am returning Nick’s check to him for the membership in the AZ inspectors Guild and declineing the appointment to be the Leason with other organizations in Arizona. After all that I saw yesterday I can’t hold my head up when I am in the presence of members of other organizations. I can not stand for us if we defend members that don’t abide by our state laws and want NACHI to keep standing up for them at the expence of our credability and standing in the community. Thank you all I am going to take a few days to sort out my thoughts on everything then may be I can come back to the thred again and make cohearent writing.
Originally Posted By: Guest
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Dan Harris and Michael Craig have just done more for the credibility of NACHI than anything I’ve seen yet and they should be embraced for their frank and honest demeanor.
Originally Posted By: dharris
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| Dan Harris and Michael Craig have just done more for the credibility of NACHI than anything I've seen yet and they should be embraced for their frank and honest demeanor. |
After having an opportunity to talk to Mike and hearing what he went to get the information provided I have to give all the credit to him.
As far as credibility of this org in AZ, from what I heard talking to 4 other members of this org [at todays CE ashi seminar] that chose to not speak up, I found the credibility of this org here is extremely thin and getting thinner daily
Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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(who invented the internet) about it.
There exists an investigation for every formal complaint filed and since I know of 2 of them, filed one myself, was contacted once by an investigator and once by the btr by phone... I think it fair to say there is an investigation. Which judging by my inbox (full of emails from AZ inspectors... not me) there should be one.
I possess plenty of emails which prove malice... and so no one should complain about my suspicions, they're quite founded in the emails I possess from folks like this Allen Blaker from ASHI. I have emailed Mr. Blaker and asked him if he objects to me posting his emails here for all to read (He sent a doozy after we announced our AZ Chapter meeting  ). If he doesn't answer I'll assume he doesn't object to me making them public. Hate to ask another question but what the heck... Did Allen Blaker ever sit on the board?
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Originally Posted By: Guest
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Whomever has sent you emails …the malicious ones… has to their credit, kept the vitriol private.
I have some emails from you and a few members that show malice; I also have some from members that clearly break your ethics codes.
We should make this a game and you can post one then I'll post one.
At the end of it all most people will be sick to their stomachs.
Or you could just stay on track for a change and fix the problem rather than trying to change the rules.
Originally Posted By: dharris
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The only success I've seen is your posts clarify what the professionals in this profession openly state [ Your a chest pounding idiot with a vendetta against what the professionals are working and a have worked hard for,
[ Raising the bar of professionalism of this industry]
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What part of no do you not understand NO
I've known Alan for over 4 yrs now, Mike posted some of his credentials
and from my understanding the ones affiliated with this industry were often not obtained by being a yes man, Alan has 1 commitment and that is providing his customers and his students the most info aviabile with the sole intent of raising the level of professionalism of this profession, and whether right or wrong his opionins are often criticized by members of his own org,
Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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I guess time will tell what is really going on. It IS a bit curious how NACHI guys are seemingly silenced. MAybe it’s a lack of experience. Maybe it’s something else.
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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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-Winner (first to post) gets $500.
-Runner up gets $300.
-Third place gets $200.
-I will give out as many as 25 nice consolation prizes to those who enter but don't win.
To enter all you have to do is be one of the many ASHI Candidates and members who over the years have been on ASHI's website but not licensed in AZ. Simply post here the scanned image of the dated letter you received from the AZ btr telling you you could get fined for being on the ASHI website.
There are many incentives for you to enter the race...
1. You restore honor to the AZ btr by proving they do not favor ASHI and that in fact they are even-handed across association lines.
2. You get to make Nick Gromicko look like a total a$% (not much of an accomplishment but still fun).
3. You get the prize money.
Let the "The Great AZ btr RACE for honor" begin!
On your mark...
Ge set...
GO!
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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Originally Posted By: dharris
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| To enter all you have to do is be one of the many ASHI Candidates and members who over the years have been on ASHI's website but not licensed in AZ. Simply post here the scanned image of the dated letter you received from the AZ btr telling you you could get fined for being on the ASHI website. |
The problem with your game is that
members of AZ ASHI adhere to Az code of ethics or they will be removed from the org.
AZ ASHI members adhere to the code to have the opportunity to be recognized by the public as a professional HI
AZ ASHI inspectors take advantage of free email information concerning inspection and licensing info,
This free up to date info is also aviabile to ashi and non ashi az nspectors
AZ ASHI inspectors take attending continued ED seriously, and keep up with the requirements by attending 4 plus annual 1 or 2 day seminars for a nominal fee
along with 8-10 annual dinner CE meetings annually at NO charge at both Tucson and Phoenix locations
AZ ASHI inspectors recognize that being part of a professional org is a big part of there success opposed to being a member of dictator run org. so most of the 180 AZ ASHI inspectors won't waste there time here, let alone play your game
As far as years being posted as a non licensed ashi inspector the licensing requirement became effective less than 2 years ago
At todays AZ ASHI cont. ed seminar I found there is 1 less nachi member as his name is still listed as a member despite the fact his membership expired 6 mo ago / 4 yesterday 1 today 9 plus that aren't certified, by my count the az nachi membership is less than 30,
Geez nick whats going on? az nachi membership is going backwards
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Nobody needs to do this you, you do that very well by yourself
Originally Posted By: tallen
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Hey Dan, may I attend these dinners? If so , do I find out when and where on the AZ ASHI web site? Or do I need to sign up for a news letter. I would love to be able to attend. Is there a fee for non ASHI guys?
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30 Oct 2003-- 29 Nov2005
Originally Posted By: dharris
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Hey Dan, may I attend these dinners? If so , do I find out when and where on the AZ ASHI web site? Or do I need to sign up for a news letter. I would love to be able to attend. Is there a fee for non ASHI guys? |
Sure it's open to all at no charge there may be a minimal fee for the restaurant but not a fee for attending.I've been to the Tucson meeting 2 times , great bunch of guys willing to share inspection info and they always cover a interesting HI subject If it's not listed on www.azshi.org Bob Kilie the AZ ASHI southern director can provide you all the info
Originally Posted By: tallen
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Thanks Dan
I will see you at the next one.
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www.whiteglovehomeinspections.net
30 Oct 2003-- 29 Nov2005
Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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NACHI members to come to his/her rescue. There is no shame in using every weapon at hand. I personally will use everything at my disposal to make sure Justin doesn’t suffer a fine.
Attack one of us...you attack us all. Threaten one of us with a fine, you threaten all of us. We are an association for a reason, we eat together at http://www.nachi.org/events.htm for a reason , we share information on this message board for a reason, we set up http://www.nachi.org/crf.htm for a reason, and we always help each other for a reason.
This is the soul of NACHI. I would go as far as saying it is almost a NACHI Code of Honor, and a code I am bound to.
United we stand.
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Originally Posted By: Guest
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Whether right or wrong, band together, defy the law. Damn that’s noble.