Hip or Gable

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#1

Originally Posted By: rmoore
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Crude and simplified diagram of todays roof.


![](upload://tTj3rilhyM8L2rOH40LBiBNvpje.jpeg)

Because of trees I didn't get a good explanatory photo, but it was a little more complex than this with a similar projection over the garage.

The thing is that the hip ends were about 50% of the height of the whole roof. So is this a modified hip roof with gable ends, or a modified gable roof with hip ends? On a scale of importance this barely rates a one, but it's annoying me.

I'm thinking of going with Hibble or Gip! ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

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Richard Moore
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#2

Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Always heard that referred to as a “Boston Hip”.


Just did a Google search on "Boston Hip roof" and came up with this:

http://www.rcpshelters.com/TT-Custom.pdf

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Jerry Peck
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#3

Originally Posted By: aslimack
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If its older, maybe a broken or dislocated hip…


Are you serious Jerry? I've never heard of a Boston Hip. Or have i just been made the stooge on this weeks "Candid Camera?"

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#4

Originally Posted By: aslimack
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Wow, Just checked it out. I guess so. Seems like i’ve seen that type of roof before. Just had no idea what it was called.


Adam, A Plus

#5

Originally Posted By: rmoore
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Thanks Jerry…


mine was a little different in that the pitch was unbroken on the main part of the roof. I'm going to describe it as a combination of hip and gable style in the report...but I'll probably think of this as a Boston-Hip from now on.

Appreciate the effort.

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#6

Originally Posted By: jpeck
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Richard,


Most of the Boston Hips I see have an unbroken slope on the main slopes too.

The main identifying factor is the hip / gable combination. Sometimes, the gable is very small in relation to the hip, sometimes the hip is very small in relation to the gable, sometimes they are half and half. Like any roof, I am sure there are almost infinite variations in slope and percentage hip / gable.

I did some more searching and found this, which shows what you saw and what I see.

here

It is also referred to as a dutch gable (I never knew that).

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Jerry Peck
South Florida

#7

Originally Posted By: rmoore
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Cool…


Yes, I've often seen them with a small gable or a narrow hip section. Those I've described as the whatever the obvious major style was with xxxx ends. This was the first I've seen that was half and half. The "Dutch Gable" rings a bell...maybe it's a east-west coast thing.

Thanks again.

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Richard Moore
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Seattle, WA
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#8

Originally Posted By: ccoombs
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I know then as a Dutch Hip. There are lots of them in my area from about 30-50 years ago. They are making a come back in the new developments.


When using trusses they frame very similar to a hip, but easier. A normal hip has a hip girder with a flat top. The jack trusses extend their top chords over the hip girder truss to finish the hip to the apex. With a Dutch Hip they just put a normal truss as the hip girder truss. Although it is much more difficult detailing the shear transfer, but the framing is easier.

#9

Originally Posted By: rmoore
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Thank you also Curtis.


I found the following site http://www.gordonmott.com/styles.html where they're referred to as "Hip and Gable" (as opposed to "Hip on Gable", which is a different beast altogether).

The tally so far...

Boston Hip
Dutch Gable
Dutch Hip
Hip and Gable

Pick one...they all appear to be the same. ![icon_eek.gif](upload://yuxgmvDDEGIQPAyP9sRnK0D0CCY.gif)
"Hibble" is starting to look fine.

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Richard Moore
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Seattle, WA
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#10

Originally Posted By: sbyrnes
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sounds like a poll topic!

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#11

Originally Posted By: rray
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I rarely see a true anything, so I usually have to go with things like “modified gable with hips and valleys,” “modified gable,” “modified hip,” “modified Mansard,” etc. Almost all my reports have “modified” as a modifier of the roof type.

#12

Originally Posted By: rhinck
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Around here we call them an Imperial Gable.




Rick