Hip style framing seems questionable

I just came out of an attic and this house has hip style framing which are very very very rarely see probably only done two maybe three this year so I just don’t have tons of experience with it but I wanted a second opinion.

In the Attic the framing on one side is spliced together and that attached to the pre-built manufactured truss. It seems really odd to have this splice partially up the minimal support in my opinion and no attachment at the top I’ve tried to include pictures to the best of my ability but limited space in the Attic So pictures aren’t terrific.

I would love them put from those that are more knowledgeable with the style of framing thanks


I circled the splices that I’m heavily questioning to better show what I believe to be wrong. They aren’t very far from the top and it doesn’t seem to me that there’s a whole lot of support there to support that upper however I’m not an engineer and I’ve never been a framing contractor hence why I’m asking for help

Yeah, that looks like crap but I’ve definitely seen worse. The way those hip rafters are floating at the top end always amazing me but I’ve seen it that way before (did someone stand there and hold it while they nailed the sheathing on?). The fact that they didn’t even angle the rafter to hip rafter connection is pretty lame (Get 'er done!).

Are you seeing any performance issues from the outside? Sagging? Softness? Without a performance problem to point to I could see letting it go. I once got in an argument on a 3 year old house we had inspected. I told the buyer (who was now a seller and had it inspected) that the framer thought it was okay, the city inspector thought it was okay and my inspector thought it was okay. So, that makes it 3 to 1 (the one being new buyer’s inspector). I never heard back so maybe my explanation worked :slight_smile:

It falls into the category or looks terrible but is working. I can argue either side of that.

Trusses are not supposed to be cut, notched or redesigned without an engineers approval. I would definitely write that up as a serious defect if an engineer didn’t sign off on it.

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There is more going on there than we can see, and yes, it looks like they cut common trusses to hip the roof. Amazing.


Deadwood on Hip Construction is not uncommon. It appears structurally sound to me from the photos

I agree with Scott above.
All that glitter must be helping that hip rafter stay up.
Everything in that picture is wrong. Obviously, whoever framed this did not know what he was doing.
Recommend a licensed qualified contractor to review and see if corrections can be made to help support the hip rafter which is supporting the crippled rafters.


Ugly is sometimes functional, but those floating hip ends raises my eyebrows and I would call it out also.