Is any one else bothered by NACHI attemping to flood our market with inexperienced inspectors?
I agree with the proctored exam for current members of NACHI, but now NACHI is promoting grandfathering for non-members with NO EXPERIENCE and for less money than we members are paying.
AAA Construction School has a 2 day course that includes a “proctored” exam AND membership to InterNACHI for $239. We loyal, experienced members pay $289 per year for membership.
Am I the only one that feels like this is a slap in the face by NACHI?
See you all in Melbourne,
Reece
You are not alone. Please do bring this issue up at the meeting.
You are worried about something that is about over and there is nothing that you can do to change it unless you can get a time machine. Why waste your mental energy. Try to figure out how to stand out from the rest.
Well let’s think about this, we are in the wrong buisiness. We sell home inspections. Inachi sells home inspector memberships. Every year they sell some to new inspectors and renewals to current members. There are more people than houses so in theory the market for sales of memberships is bigger. The fees for both on average are comparable. Nice gig if you can get it.
Your licensing law is the incentive. NACHI is simply one of many who are taking advantage of the law and the opportunity it presents to NACHI…and other carpet baggers…to exploit it and, frankly, you.
Those who fought for licensing have created the privilege that is now yours to simply bend over, grab your ankles and go with it.
Your screams of agony…your grimaces and groans from pain…need to be heard by others in states who think that a license makes them “professionals” like those who inflicted it upon you.
Don’t blame NACHI for pissing in the toilet that your licensing law put you in.
I have been building homes for fourty years and contracting for 25 years.I have performed maybe 200 builder inspection since 1986 but on paper I am a inexperienced Inspector. I went to ashi school to get the 160hrs required by Washington State. I joined ASHI , NACHI and ICC and have been a lisenced home and pest inspector for one year. You may be surprised how many veteran builders are moving to home inspection. I do appreciate all the hardwork and heavy lifting the veteran inspectors have done in the last twenty years to build home inspection in to a reputable profession. PS I will not be renewing my ASHI membership
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Yes. Many of the ones hollering the loudest were all for licensing when it was believed it was going to run off the competition. I don’t know why as there were those who beat the drum with statistics showing that there was a dramatic increase in licensing in every State the enacted it. Unfortunately, for some the license will be the source of their own demise. Now, too, some are once again looking to Nachi and State organizations to “fix” the problem, when given the opportunity to have a voice they chose to sit on the sidelines and let others do the heavy lifting. When we were fighting this law we got feedback from Tallahassee that they had received very little email, or mail traffic from around the State in opposition. I think this is called being hanged by your own rope.,
You guys are being melodramatic.
Licensing is a good thing and sorry Doug but the statement Licensing has increased in every state that enacted it makes no sense .What does that even mean?
In Illinois we we are less than half the numbers from a few years ago.
Up tick in publicity and carpetbaggers will have a short life span.
Bob,
Yes, that tracks exactly. You are seeing what happens after a few years, but when licensing is first enacted there is a rush of people trying to get in on the licensing before the deadline. It happens almost every time. After a while though many who should have looked before they leaped, find out this really isn’t what they thought it would be for a myriad of reasons; the sudden flush of inspectors over saturates the field, low balling becomes normal, some just don’t know how to run a business but bought into all the hype of high pay, low work and being their own boss. Then there is the normal attrition of inspectors who don’t last beyond the 3 year mark. So what you are seeing is what everyone sees after a few years. Unfortunately, the cycle has a tendency to repeat itself ever so often. How many people have come in just recently asking about getting into the business. More than usual. I have only been doing this for 17+ yrs but I have seen it over and over.
Doug it is the same with any business.
Are the trades any different.
You have ,at least in Chicago union guys put out of work by those off the boat with shoddy construction that soon follows.
Hey more work.
In the long run it is a good thing to have a state Licence to at least give appearance to the consumer that their is regulation and oversight.
Even if the fee was $1 it at least stops uncle Joe from doing inspections for the neighbors and making the profession a joke.
The very act of filling out the paperwork is enough to stop many and the same publicity that draws them in will also keep them out.
How many people would sell hot dogs or stick corn on the street if they were forced to get permits and follow state regulated guidelines for running water as an example.
OK, may not apply in most areas but I hope you get my example
Some sort of structure and CE requirement at least turns it into a perceived legit profession .
I agree, all the trades have experienced this same thing. Illustrates my position perfectly. Happened here many years ago when they decided to license some of the trades. However, we are not builders and there are other methods already being used in some States that does exactly the same thing in guaranteeing competent inspectors are operating without licensing and with little or no cost to the States.
It is a cycle and it will continue UP & DOWN. Know your competition and beat them at the game.
ASHI promoted licensing around the country to do two things… Establish & sell the NHIE Exam and to squeeze NACHI out, they failed horribly at both but their lobbyists succeeded in helping to get much of the bad laws enacted anyway.
Now that the contractors in Florida will be allowed to give away inspections as a marketing tool to sell repair work the end of our profession has arrived. I wouldn’t doubt that by the 1st licensing renewal most true home inspectors will have been pushed out for good.
The associations will be in full decline by then too because many of the new shake-&-bake ConSpectors don’t belong to any home inspection association and will see little value in belonging to one either.
What goes around… comes around too.
Joe, Haven’t contractors always done that?
Don’t like inexperienced inspectors? … Fight licensing. In Florida, staring in March, nearly all the inspectors getting a new license will have no experience. Take a 3-week course and shazam! You get the same state-issued credential as a 20-year veteran. Come March, this will be the case from then on… until forever.
Don’t blame InterNACHI or DBPR for the licensing law in your state… and start getting used to every new license being issued to someone with no experience.
Nick, I agree with what you’re saying, it’s just disappointing that NACHI is making it so cheap. I mean you’ve kind of got the non-members by the short and curly’s.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to meeting you tomorrow. Thanks for making this happen.
Like Joe said…soon, Florida home inspections will be little more than a free give away for unemployed contractors to use to get job bids. Until then…at least the newbies with their new licenses will have access to some education so as not to sour the entire Florida consumer on the profession, as a whole.
In the province of British Columbia, licensing/regulation began March 1, 2009. I spoke to their office a few weeks ago.
They had estimated 400+ HI’s in the province prior to licensing. At March 1, 2009, there were only 300 licensed HI’s. When I called the office, there were now 392 licensed HI’s in the province…that was approximately 22 months after licensing began and they felt they were not back up to pre-licensing HI levels!!. So it appears if you write the rules right, you will weed out those with little experience and diploma mill cerifications. INACHI, ASHI, NAHI designations were not recognized!
Gee it sure is great to have Brian here to tell us all what he feels are our short coming .
Long Live the KING.
Mr. Welch you obviously are not aware of the events that occur in the legal system. The schools that teach these programs and courses are just that. They do not make the rules or course requirements. These are dictated by the law that is put in place. To have an issue with a school is not where you should place the blame. Your lobbyists are the ones who carry out your wishes and they may or may not be heard at the state level. If you disagree with the course requirements, course hours and other issues maybe you should go back to the drawing board. This happens in many trades. The educators and regulators can only work with the law that is handed down. Don’t disrespect the wrong parties.