Is a Dutch hip, hip?

see my edit

However, I still don’t know the answer to his question. I would think the widow’s walk would need to be counted.

On the WindMit I would not count that flat.
The open front porch gable would be ignored.
That’s what I was taught being a supervisor for
the My Safe Florida Home project.

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Marc are you saying you wouldn’t count the structure? or you wouldn’t count the roof covering? or both?

I’m sorry Les. I wanna make sure I understand.
Wouldn’t count what structure/roof covering. That funky top with the flat?

Widows walk

The original OP asked two questions, which did you answer Marc. It wouldn’t be counted as non hip on the wind mit?

Correct. I would give it a hip designation.
Open front porch does not count.
On a 1 story structure, measure the roof perimeter only. :cowboy_hat_face:

NO!
The correct term is That funky top with the flat :wink:

@mgoldenberg :smiley: :rofl: :rofl: :grinning:

Is there a specific reason why “that funky top with a flat” wouldn’t count as “other” and be included as an additional roof covering ? Is it because it’s only decorative and not structural ? @mgoldenberg

I’m simply following the rule of a one story structure, measure roof perimeter only. “that funky top with a flat” does not exist to me.
I don’t know or care if it’s decorative or structural.

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Referred to as a, "Widow’s Walk**

We have already disqualified that term, see a few posts up :grin: :grin: :+1:

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WAFI alert!

Here goes yet another wind mit question ! @labstein @ddagostino @mgoldenberg and anyone else than can help…
This is from today. Both entry doors were glazed opening. As you can see the edging on the door said “tempered glass” and I’ve always though that when it’s tempered glass it’s not impact rated, because tempered is just for safety not impact rated. However both entry doors had a sticker indicating its compliance and stating they were both large Missile impact rated. Am I missing something here ?

Not missing anything. :cowboy_hat_face:
The label is marked PA203, good to go.
Impact-resistant windows typically combine tempered and laminated glasses, creating a safe glass to withstand blunt force

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@labstein @mgoldenberg
I just got an email this morning from a State Farm underwriter stating that the “Hip” classification I put on the wind mitigation form has been changed to “other” due to the fact that that flat portion wasn’t included in the measurements. So I guess it should have been included :man_shrugging:t2: (At least according to State Farm). Just wanted to update you guys on this.

They are GOONS.
IMO state farm is the most horrible company I know of.
If they want to change the classification, they can… BUT they cannot legally alter/change your report.
They do not even have the right to question your findings.
The law specifically states they “shall submit”, not change it, debate, etc.

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Wanna make good friends for the future?
Send the GOON agent this.

Florida Statute 627.711 authorizes me to produce the 1802 form by way of my licensure, what it does not do is give insurance agents the authority to question my techniques or not accept my form. FSS 627.711 states unequivocally that the “insurer shall accept as valid” any form signed by an authorized wind mitigation inspector. By not accepting my form, you are in violation of state law. Make no mistake, I am the construction professional here, not you.

As a licensed professional, authorized by state law, I decide what the findings are by using specific recognized construction standards and the required training of my licensure. If you do not accept my form I will report you to the proper authorities as in violation of the law by way of not accepting a legal document from a licensed, authorized, inspector simply because you don’t agree with the outcome.

“Shall accept as valid” means required and not optional.

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