Russell, what is your problem?
I have been a full time inspector much longer than you. You are always ready to argue with someone if it is not your way, you get all pissed off.
You need to slow down we are not all bad people.
sounds like someone who couldn’t get the license to me. sure sounds jealous of the fact that contractors use their brains instead of their body. he wants all home inspectors to have the rights they have not earned.
just showing his leadership abilities - just the guy I want representing me. one thing I’ve learned, you never know which Russell is going to show up; the one who respects that a GC may have something to offer the HI profession or the one who feels every single building in America is here by the Grace of God and a Home Inspector. Every builder is incompetent and needs to be supervised by someone who has passed the rigorous 120 hr online course in How to Be a Home Inspector.
Sad. Don’t bother replying Russell, I am done with this charade and I am done with you pretending to be my representative - you are not.
Everybody chill out, lets keep it professional and respect everyone’s background. We all know that there are HI’s like Russell who have been doing inspections for years and are very knowledgeable and we know there HI’s with Div 1, ICC, and SBCCI licenses that are knowledgeable as well. We need to have equal representation and that representation must be unbiased no matter what background he or she has come from. We must all have a clear and concise agenda and goal and all this bickering, name calling and innuendo here in public is not doing us any favors! Lets all stay focused and respect one another and remember we all have a right to work. The focus should be no matter what your background is proper schooling and on site inspection under a mentor should be mandatory. We all know that we learn something and see something new everyday that we do an inspection. It is hands on inspecting experience, continuing education, membership in a great organization and the ability to communicate and ask questions of our peers that is the real teacher here, lets stay focused! This is what should be portrayed to the CILB on Friday and we need a leader to deliver that message!
I am the HOME INSPECTORS representative. NOT the Contractors representative.
If you do not see another profession has the right to perform what I do and then not have to
Abide by an SOP
Abide by a COE
Have the same insurance
Be able to perform work on a job they just inspected
No contiuing education
Pretty much have free reign to do as they like…
That is the Russell Hensel that will always show. I will always continue to protect my profession and when it is being attacked, then I must protect.
If you William Chandler feel I have hood winked you or taken advantage of you, just let me know. I will make it right.
But there is an ENTIRE profession, trying to do as they please is my profession. If you see that as wrong, then we have different opinions.
I dont care about the background. I care about NOW and the future! What one was means nothing to me. Its about the PROFESSION. I have seen homemakers become awesome inspectors and General Contractor be horrible inspectors. Its not about what he or she was…its about the PROFESSION and it is trying to be CIRCUMVENTED…
Thats the problem and if standing and defending it makes people upset. Then be upset. Is that not the purpose of my position? I cannot play both sides of a fence. I must make a stand and it will always be siding with the purpose of NACHI…HOME INSPECTORS reguardless of background.
For the record--------I could not agree more. I don’t like what going on with the CILB, DBPR and/or Koning or any other organization that is messing with my profession either ! We as HI professionals don’t need any more grandfathered in—" know nothings" in this profession.
The bottom line… 120 hrs, proctored exam, continuing education, 3 years on the job mentoring, membership in an approved organization should be the norm no mater what your background is (period) !
I love ya man!
Thanks Fred and you have been doing this MANY years and are very proficient at it. I appreciate the support and its jsut about protecting the profession.
For thos who think I hate contractors…John Shishilla, Preston Halstead, Jay Murray, Alfred P, Fred Sylvester, William Chandler are people I respect to the utmost, but to me they are Inspectors with a contractors license, not the other way around. Meaning their first allegience is to the profession and I thank you for that…
if your a contractor and a home inspector you better look out for what’s best for you.
I have read through this entire thread and will give you contractor inspectors credit for successfully using the smoke and mirrors tactic to shift the argument away from the real issue at hand toward one of who is got the biggest d$%K and “earned” rights. By successfully highjacking the issue to be about “credentials”, “qualifications”, and “earned rights”, you have hidden the real issue and true intent of the Mr. Konigs Declaratory Request. I believe someone further up this thread correctly identified the real issue that if the Dec. statement is affirmed, Div.1 contractors will have successfully circumvented long standing professional inspectors (as well as our current state licensing’s) ethics provisions. In addition, the Div. 1 contractor will also successfully circumvent any standards of practices that professional home inspectors abide by. An affirmative ruling for the Dec. statement will effectively create two sets of rules in the inspection industry: One set of rules for the professional inspector who abides by long standing industry standard ethics provisions and follows a standards of practice, and another set of rules for the Div.1 contractor who is not bound by professional inspector ethics provisions and does not follow industry standard of practice when doing an inspection that will not be called an “inspection”. This ruling- if and when affirmed, will create an enforcement nightmare for DBPR. It will also be a disservice to the Citizens of Florida when in need of professional inspection services.
Anyone that holds more than just a home inspector license.
Make sure you see what folks are trying to take away from you and how they want to become your equal before you just jump on the ole bandwagon.
If you help screw yourself and want others to have the same rights you have earned without the same requirements then you are not looking out for your best interests.
you owe it to your self and your family to always look out for your “financial” best interests.
Mr. Meeker.
It would be in a contractors best financial interest to only allow contractors to be qualified to be home inspectors.
Self serving is self serving.
Contractors are not qualified in themselves to be a home inspector.
If they were there would not be so much crap housing and remodels.
A minimum of two things are certain from this exchange and issue:
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Contractors are full of themselves. Much of what inspectors see involve quality, or a lack thereof. I don’t give Mike Holmes credit for much, but he finds lots of faulty workmanship. So, for anyone to tell me (who qualifies for a GC license but chooses not to get one) that they are somehow more qualified then me, you are full of crap.
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the HI licensing law in Florida is self made and self serving. It’s a mess and will continue to be a mess.
Bottom line is that a contractor should require a license as a home inspector to inspect homes. As such, he should abide by the COE and SOP. That COE should prohibit potential conflicts of interest.
Period. End of Report.
Want to be an inspector? Be one!
Want to be a contractor? Be one!
Want to work on what you inspect? Sorry, but no can do.
As to Mike Meeker’s latest brain fart whereby he disses the SOP, it proves his ignorance. If one is an uninvited guest into your home and uses invasive or destructive techniques to inspect, you’d likely sue him or throw him out.
So, tell me genius, if a driveway is cracked and in poor condition what is the inspector supposed to report on? Since you are not qualified to render a onservation based on the principles of engineering, what will you say? Oh, yeah… Thr driveway is cracked and in poor condition.
Mike, go back to building your crooked house.
The real issues we find on a daily basis are almost always caused by the homeowner and almost never from the original builder.
At least in my little area of South Florida.
Joe as always you are proving your ignorance.
Where am I currently or recently dissing this fine orgs. SOP?
I only have a problem with this orgs opinion on what I should be allowed to do and what I cannot do.
I feel I should be allowed to do everything I am qualified and licensed to do. PERIOD.
Who is “we”, Mike? Contractors?
Most of what I see are NOT caused by homeoowners. In fact, many jobs that homeowners perform are SUPERIOR in materials used, p,anning, layout, functionality, and craftsmanship than a lot of so-called builders or construction experts.
For you to make the statement you made suggests that you have done few true home inspections.
For those who “inspect” as an angle or a means to repair a defect, its difficult to slam the last builder because you may, in fact, be a worse shlub then your predeceeasor.
The only ignorant one is the person staring at you in the mirror. Read your past posts, genius. You slam the SOP as laughable.
Come on… this is way too easy.
You are truly a fool. I never have done as you suggest. That is an asinine way to attempt to get ones foot in the door to find work.
Keep talking, I love it or just go away like usual 
You should try my home inspection alternative if you really want to see a product worth its price.
You get the opinion of a Florida Licensed General Contractor for the price of a heal clickers worthless written report.
Exactly! This needs to be the focus.
Who is we? I would suggest you do a little more investigation to determine what it is you don’t know. Be prepared for a dissapointment. If you are not seeing the things wrong on inspections being done on new construction that is not because they aren’t there… it is your inability to recognize them due to a lack of knowledge and experience. Please come on up to Orlando for the FABI conference this weekend, you will meet dozens of contractors who DO NOT share your opinion. People who have been code officials, give testimony for court cases as their routine, GC’s who are state certified code enforcement officers and enginneers who practice home inspections for a living.
You have no right to feel superior, you are not. For many years FABI has taken opportunities to advance this career as a proffession. Your constant irratation as THE contractor that is the one that doesn’t get it makes most of us confused. You are doing damage to the proffession that you have chosen. If you spent half the time you spend on the message board LEARNING something from inspection courses offerred you might impress somebody…probably won’t be me.