More Than Three EGC'S Allowed?

[cunderwood4 (Christopher Underwood)]

I know you can’t have more three EGC’S under the grounded bus lug(s). I don’t think this is a big deal but I have been wrong before lol, and I do see this from time to time. Would this warrant an electrician to relocate the EGC’S so no more than 3 are on a single lug in your opinion?

[ruecker (Ryan Uecker)]

There is no way for virtually anyone to know how many conductors that lug is rated for. I’m sure the resident electricians will skewer me for this, but if those grounds were twisted up nice and tight, I wouldn’t have a real-life issue with it. As it is though, I think there is some risk that one or more of the grounds might not be secured properly. I would recommend an electrician for that reason.

[dhorton2 (Daniel Horton, CMI®)]

@ruecker

but if those grounds were twisted up nice and tight, I wouldn’t have a real-life issue with it.

I was thinking the same thing.

[jjonas (Jeffrey Jonas)]

@ruecker

but if those grounds were twisted up nice and tight,

@dhorton2

I was thinking the same thing. .

Ditto… and I also bet the OP wouldn’t have given it a second glance either!

[lkage (Larry Kage, CMI)]

Yeah, I’m the dissent.

Now if the conductors were all tightly twisted together before termination, that I might find acceptable.

[cunderwood4 (Christopher Underwood)]

Thank you Robert!

[ryoung7 (ROBERT YOUNG, CMI)]

I am retracting that post.

[jjonas (Jeffrey Jonas)]

From another thread…

@rmeier2

Not code complaint but if they’re twisted tightly and inserted then there might not be a hazard either problem is you will never know if the connection is reliable. That’s similar to SEU cable where the neutral is made of multiple strands wrapped around the ungrounded conductors. That neutral is terminated by twisting all of the strands together and inserting it into the terminal. And although that is a similar type of connection for the neutral it is permitted, for multiple EGC’s it is not and should be called out for correction.

[rmeier2 (Robert Meier)]

@lkage

Now if the conductors were all tightly twisted together before termination, that I might find acceptable

It’s funny because it still would not be code compliant but it would be no different than twisting together all of the strands on the SE cable neutral.

[sfetty (Dave Fetty, CMI)]

@ruecker

but if

Two big words.