I’m sorry but I DO appreciate good manners.
Me to in person.
But who died and made up this dumb a-s rule?
Come on you really have the time to give a rats a-s about how someone types? rEALLY?
see there it happened again. The truth is that was real.
The funny thing is all the old folks who cannot see well and others with vision problems may actually benefit from the practice.
People recognize words and sentence structure properly when caps are properly used, proven fact. Look it up
http://www.netlingo.com/word/shouting.php
http://www.ehow.com/info_8190290_important-use-capitalization-communications.html
I will not even give the links a view.
If you care about that then you are loopie.
Like I said before just about everything else in life is more important than how others type.
I do not feel the need to tell others how to do things unless it affects me in negative ways and how someone types does not affect me.
I am embarrassed for those who really waist their time even considering such nonsense.
hECK i MAY JUST KEEP IT THIS WAY FROM NOW ON. jUST FOR SH-TS AND GIGGLES 
John,
How do you ignore some one on this MB?
Click on his name at one of his posts, view public profile. Under his pic, Click user lists, click add to ignore list.
Just asking a question: What disciplinary actions if any will there be for this inspector?
None
1468.8319 Prohibitions; penalties.–
(h) Offer or deliver any compensation, inducement, or reward to any **broker or agent **therefor for the referral of the owner of the inspected property to the inspector or the inspection company;
**The MEEKER IS CORRECT!! in everything he preaches! **
**I had the same conversation with a client yesterday during a W/M. He asked me: Why you need all those pictures? Are you licensed? They should trust your judgment… **
Time and time again people question why someone has to go into a 110F attic to take a picture of a nail, clip, …
The Time Has Come To Make a Satatement and STOP the BS.
THE MEEKER FOR PRESIDENT!!
Get them MEEKER!
John,
Unless you’ve got me fooled welcome aboard. Glad to have you. Now lets convince the rest of these guys to do something about it.
Now only a few more million to go.
Keep this one at the top. The companies/ Inspectors offering kickbacks will all be reported.
Unfortunately in all likelihood nothing will happen.
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**I had the same conversation with a client yesterday during a W/M. He asked me: Why you need all those pictures? Are you licensed? They should trust your judgment… **[/QUOTE]
I believe the msfh program proved who could be trusted…
One bad apple don’t spoil the whole bunch…but in this case a whole orchard went wayward…
We are still seeing it now. There are a lot of guys out there that just dont know how to do them right. Pictures are a great way to verify.
You are crazy, pictures are a great way for scumbags to just fake it.
They simply grab a stock photo and put it in place in the report.
Why on earth are you for them? What do you gain and how is it good for you?They are dangerous and unnecessary. What do you think we are children? “Now you must show your work Johnnie or you will not get credit” If we hold the alleged qualifications then our word should be enough. PICTURES DO NOT PROVE SH_T. You really think an idiot behind a desk is better that telling us what is proper when they have never even been in an attic.
What the hell is wrong with you people that makes you want to do dangerous and useless things because some insurance company wants you to.
People with that attitude blow me away and I doubt that you will change your minds even when someone ends up dead.
Wake up and see things clearly. Any of you that just follow along and do not use you own mind to figure this out are going to get someone killed because you all are to thick to see the light.
Get real before it is to late.
Preston,
He does not get it. They are to PROVE when people do them wrong. If the pictures do not match the home they prove fraud. Without pictures you can just say I did not know what I was doing or I though differently.
You and I both know we can read other’s reports and tell if they know what they were doing. If someone puts hip and there is a big flat section, they are lying or do not know what they are doing. I can tell form across the attic if a nail is 6d or 8d. If you write 8d and it is 6d but your picture shows 6d you are lying. We use images as a QA also, if the answers do not match the picture the inspector gets an email with appropriate questions.
Yes you can mark a truss anyway you want and take a picture to back-up whatever you want to put in the report. Insurance companies get to know who shortcuts the system and they monitor those more. They begin to develop a picture of who commits fraud, who has no clue and yes those that do them right. I know because we talk with the underwriters and senior analysts to find where the issue developed.
Many do not realize that in the beginning many inspectors did not even go the the property. They usually did not go in the attic. This is part of the reason why the pictures became a crucial part of the inspection process. There were people that were only going to do them for a few weeks/months they were the worst offenders.
If you can not get a picture you should be marking Unknown or undetermined. Insurance companies do not accept the WAG method and neither do I. Most of the images can be faked and some do not prove much(like a re-nailed, originally stapled roof). They do prove or disprove that you went there and looked. I do not know the statistics but I bet it cut the fraud at least in half.
If you do not like doing the job, then do not do it. If it is unsafe then mark unknown or undetermined. But for gods sake move on. OIR and the insurance companies have no control over your licensee. They can not just pull your license because they think your a lying “scumbag” Their only re coarse is rejection, and the best way to start is picture proof.
Sorry Bump