Those are nothing but garbage links. Not one of the twelve you have listed for the State of Washington would even open. No information, nothing but a waste of time.
You allow / protect Aaron Wise the king of spammers to continue to abuse the membership. Maybe we should call you Pope Nick from now on. :roll:
Normally I would agree. My issue is that I cannot “Help” to promote anyone’s business that openly and repeatedly attempts to belittle all home inspectors that do not agree with him… This is just my feelings based on the current actions I have seen, thus me personally will wait for NACHI to get our darn newsletter up and running:cool: Nick go kick Tim in the A…S…S… already.
I will stick to having my clients contact me if they need any advice or info on their home…It has worked for 10+ years for me just fine.
Jim
Once the database is large enough … all bets are off and all promises are moot.
Anyone holding this database of home owners will have total control over its use with or without any association’s or inspector’s permission. Remember, less than 20% of the inspectors contributing to it will still be in business after three years, anyway.
The owners of this database can directly market to it for a new, nationwide inspection company if they wanted to form one. The day could come when an inspector would have to buy back his own leads.
It’s not being offered for free at someone’s large financial expense for nothing.
The ONLY way an alarm company would get someone’s information is if they clicked on an offer about getting an alarm installed and then REQUESTED to be contacted about the great offer. Nothing is automatically given to anyone.
Ok that I can live with ;). I must of misread Nicks email because it appeared he said once the client clicks on the ad then client data is transmitted to the vendor who owns the ad. I thought he meant automatically. Now if a client sends the vendor their info after they click on their ad via form or email link or by phone well hey that is on their own doing which I have no problem with.
Let’s all grow up here.
Kevin gave nothing more than an assurance to Nick. Maybe he told Nick what he wanted Nick to hear.
Nearly everything a certain vendor does somehow leads to alarms. Recalls, warranties, anything… including this.
So, can Kevin honestly guarantee that, after gleaning the data of 100,000 clients he will continue to honor his “word” to Nick? Casey-O’Malley are successful businessmen. They do what is right for them.
Once they have large numbers in their hands, and database, my friend Nick will be irrelevant.
Further, what is actually being collected? Does anyone actually know?
Before, HIP and Homegauge servers were report repositories.
Now they are data collection and storage tools. So, where may it end?
Will data be automatically collected as it pertains to appliances, heating systems, HVAC, electric, siding, roofs, water intrusion, etc?
Will any vendor or marketeer be able to glean this data and alert any one of these trades about potential jobs?
What rights do the inspector or client sign away?
For that matter, and no offense to Casey-O’Malley but WHY would I ever want to provide them MY Client’s information? They spoke about a service by which the client contacts one of their inspectors to answer questions. Why would I EVER want anyone else proviide services within my realm of expertise but ME?
Once the database is large enough … all bets are off and all promises are moot.
Anyone holding this database of home owners will have total control over its use with or without any association’s or inspector’s permission. Remember, less than 20% of the inspectors contributing to it will still be in business after three years, anyway.
The owners of this database can directly market to it for a new, nationwide inspection company if they wanted to form one. The day could come when an inspector would have to buy back his own leads.
It’s not being offered for free at someone’s large financial expense for nothing.
Absolutly Brilliant. A conspiracy of epic proportions. How can I get in on this?:twisted:
C’mon Jim, you’re going to get a bunch of people all riled up.
Joe, who does the client call FIRST when their heater breaks 2 weeks in? They call an HVAC guy most of the time who throws you under the bus. What if instead, they contact us who then explains this is not something you should have found and direct them how to get it fixed.
Risk management. We are already in talks with insurance companies to give breaks on premiums to members who use COA Support and HON.
Interesting thread here.
Nick wants to use HON and reading between the lines uses HIP rather than HG.
Strange thread here as he must have a special reason for asking on a thread titled to incite anger by placing Nathan in the mix as they are two make that three seperate services.
Only two reasons he would not ask in private.
Hmmm think I can guess here…lol
I admit … it’s association with you and your enterprises created the initial suspicion of impropriety. Upon further review, however, it smells a bit fishy all on its own and without your help.
Since you are not a source of any credible or verifiable information regarding this project … or any of your own … your comments are not really worth responding to any more.
Last I checked, no one had a gun to anyone’s head saying you will use this or any other service. If you don’t like it or trust it…don’t use it!
Hey when did Nick start inspecting again ?
Does his brother use HIP as well ?
I believe Dominic innocently integrated HIP with HON. My advice to him is to unwind that integration and perhaps even get out of HON altogether. Don’t get me wrong, HON appears to me to be a very good service, one I would probably use. But as the owner of a software company that requires inspectors to enter client data, Dominic is probably the one person who should remain at arms length from HON. Inspectors might worry that there isn’t a clear firewall between the client data they enter when they generate a report on his his HIP software and the client data HON’s advertisers seek to get their hands on.
That’s my advice to Dom.
Hey Bob. We agree on something! :mrgreen:
Believe me, eventually Dom will be but ONE voice in a mix of several. He will be over-ridden, if the wind blows in a different direction.
Thanks Dom. That’s good news.
I’m going to repeat my advice to you though:
I believe Dominic innocently integrated HIP with HON. My advice to him is to unwind that integration and perhaps even get out of HON altogether. Don’t get me wrong, HON appears to me to be a very good service, one I would probably use. But as the owner of a software company that requires inspectors to enter client data, Dominic is probably the one person who should remain at arms length from HON. Inspectors might worry that there isn’t a clear firewall between the client data they enter when they generate a report on his his HIP software and the client data HON’s advertisers seek to get their hands on.
That’s my advice to my friend Dom.