Poor Claude as per usuall tries to make it seem like others are the bad people with his factious remarks ( disappointment ).
It is he and the rest of the CAHPI directors who should be ashamed of them selves .
They have for some years now been trying to sell sizzle and not the meat.
They have lied ,evaded, and given minimal information.
Then they say it is a disappointment to some.
“Well Huston we have a problem”
The only place that any information comes out is on the NACHI site and when it does the CAHPI leaders try and make small of it .
Shame on you Claude and the rest of your co-Hort’s for not standing up and giving the information that has been promised many times .
With holding information is just another delayed Lie.
It is just another Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935 Bill has a big announcement comming soon http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103
Roland don’t forget to enclose $107 Appeal Fee!
If educators think the National is disorganized this may explain why many educational institutes have not sent in thier course for review by the NCA.
Even stranger that a non certified National Body has not been reviewed by CAN P9 for compliance of which the National is based.
"Some people I have spoken with even suspect an underlying agenda."
NO!!! SAY IT AIN’T SO!!!
This has to qualify as the understatement of the month! Thanks for the morning laugh Roland. The joke prize will be, of course, your national certification. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :shock:
I can post some comments here, but as I stated before this is not the place the hold or “officially” respond to a concern such as the issue brought forward.
Certainly I could air dirty laundry - but is it the professional way of conducting business in this kangaroo court?
As I stated to Roland - I offered to investigate “his” concerns. I will also offer him a direct response. I will correspond with him directly. After that it is up to him to decide what he needs to do with that information. Should he expect anything less.
On the other side it is unfortunate that his post appears here, rather than directed to someone such as to the NCA chair or the program administrator.
Off the record - yes there have been a few “glitches” along the way, but that was after all the purpose of running the “pilot project”. It is also part of the growing pains in handling the increased number of applications and interest of training providers. Afterall, do we not all learn by our past experiences?
As such I did send a private message to Roland indicating the need for further information and details to investigate his concerns. From my viewpoint a few things do not add up - even based on his posting. Verbal confirmations are not the way the NCA conducts its business.
I say respectfully give it a break and give Roland’s concerns and my review of this matter a chance.
Many have said the secret society and Bill has admitted it is the truth.
So secret they want no one to know what is going on or where it is going .
See Below in RED by Bill Mullen
Quote " Everyone involved has been sworn to secrecy "Yes this is the group who want your money.
Years ago these people used to travel in a Conestoga and they where called snake oil salesmen.
Took your money and gave Zip Gee that looks like exactly what CAHPI has done taken the money and the returns are ??? nothing so far.
With holding information is just a delayed Lie.
Cookie
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Re: Cahpi Wants You!!! Quote: Originally Posted by ccrooker Bill are you still here, I hope. I guess nobody has told you the ‘good’ news that will be coming out about NACHI Canada over the next couple weeks.
We will welcome the survivors into the CAHPI family.
Bill Mullen 
Bill would you please let us all in on this? thanx
Hi Chuck:
All I can say is that it is big, and I consider it to be good (actually great) because it suits my goals and hopes for this industry in Canada.
I can’t say anything more because there are some on this forum who will always distort anything that I say. Because of their spiteful agendas everyone will just have to wait and watch.
Roy, Ray and Lucky George will no doubt claim to have some inside information about it, but believe me, they have no idea what this is about. Everyone involved has been sworn to secrecy because of the damage that could be done if this gets into the wrong hands prematurely (no names of course).
The only hint I’ll give is that it was my idea and it’s something I’ve personally been working very hard on for a couple of months behind the scenes and it includes the federal government and three associations.
Bill Mullen
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NATIONAL CERT. INFORMATION.
Here is info which no one outside of CAHPI has received, which considering tax payers money is involved, this info should be readily available. Nor has CAHPI-National provided any documentation as to your rights as per the by-laws which no one has been provided with.
I find it particularly disturbing that people are being told things without any guarantees or any form of confirmation of the rules.
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“Quote from Claude
I say respectfully give it a break and give Roland’s concerns and my review of this matter a chance.)”
Yes I expect you would like to give it a break that is exactly what you and CAHPI has done all along .
Do you call Roland’s post is verbal?? If so why would you even consider giving him an answer after all you have completely ignored every other post here on the NACHI site asking for information.
…Cookie
Just a matter of fact…
The NCA website is there so all people can learn about the program. We don’t send these documents to NACHI or as a matter of fact to any other inspection association because their association and/or leaders have chosen not to participate in the program. Participation is optional.
Those associations that are part of the National Certification Program receive communiques and periodic updates.
Regards, Claude
BTW: On the issue of Roland’s post - “we” are acting on his concerns. The issue is part of an ongoing process with a training provider. I will simply leave it as that - because all other information remains “confidential” and deserves the privacy between the parties involved.
Just as a matter of fact.
Those documents or most of them are not at the NCA site. Surely it would behoove CAHPI-National to do so.
Secondly you appear to be in a conflict of interest as NCA Chair and Chief Examiner as evidenced by the posted documents, with regard to this particular complaint.
Yep and Typical how NACHI is still the main way of how CAHPI and its members get their information.
Strange when it gets posted on the NACHI site how quick things move along .
We all know the secret society of both CAHPI and OAHI continually come to the NACHI site to find out what is going on in the real world of Home Inspections .
Still we all wait for the information that Bill Mullen says will soon be comming out . Soon to some is not too soon .
… Cookie
I will ask this loudly and clearly here - has Roland mis-represented the facts?
I await HIS “official” response.
First he never applied for “certification”. Information I have indicates that it was a matter about “accreditation”. Not certification for him as an individual.
So I suggest - go back and re-read his post.
Is his post an “official” publicly stated fact representing UCFV?
That is a matter - between other parties.
I still await HIS “official” response. End of story…
Thats funny because the National reserves the right to audit educational providers, yet the National will not submit itself to a CAN P9 audit to ensure the National is in compliance. End of story. 
There is no reason to apply for a CAN-P-9 audit because the NCA does not attempt to be fully CAN-P-9 compliant. We have told you this many times, but it just doesn’t sink in. The NCA used the CAN-P-9 guidlines as a roadmap only rather than trying to develop some of our own procedures and rules. This was all done with their blessing and advice.
Until (if) the NCA decides to try to be fully CAN-P-9 compliant, no audit is needed.
Every step of the process has been ‘audited’ by reputable outsiders from the public, from government agencies, from real estate, insurance, builders and banking reps, and high ranking educators. If it’s good enough for the government, national consumer groups, universities and large corporations, it’s good enough for me.
But then why would you even care? You’re sitting on the platform watching the NCP train fly by.
Oh, and Kookie, about my big announcement. The reason you haven’t seen it is because it was not made here. You made it clear that NACHI members didn’t want to hear any information from me, and that’s fine by me. Those who received the announcement and information contained therein are already reaping huge benefits, and it will shortly get much better.
Here’s a hint…Watch the national news next week. I’m going to Ottawa on Wednesday and Thursday to see some folks.
Bill Mullen RHI
#NCA00001
BTW: I want to commend and thank the MANY NACHI members who have signed up for the National Certification recently. If all goes well we will have a large NACHI group of National Certificate Holders in a few months.
BULL S H I T!
Sure you have some Nachi members signed on, so what, how many? You will need all of us to make your paper airplane fly.
Huge benefits? You promise everything and haven’t delivered anything, and you should substantiate your bull with hard facts.
As to the latest fiasco with Cam and Lloyd and other goings on you have a real political football going on.
Until Mr. Guihan comes and talks to NACHI members NACHI will not becoming forth as an Association to talk to anyone least of all you.
And by the way you should stop bragging as your bragging has a history of falling far short of their mark.
As to CAN P9 why should we take your word when the documents and CAN P9 tell a different story.
Oh and Bill,
For an elitest such as yourself you sure have a habit of name calling. Which shows just how inmature you really are.
Unlimited bull s h i t, courtesy of Bill Bob Mullen.
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