The whole system was a mess. It is a 60 amp service. Many of the condutors were 2 wire. I have never seen a fuse in a light fixture before, like it is below the water heater timer.
This also was the first house I inspected that had a basement. I like how they framed the floor joist for second floor.
Originally Posted By: pabernathy This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Hmm…What I see is a panel that is in DIRE need of a service upgrade…These older split style panels were never designed to do what this one is doing.
Jeff, I do not believe the neutrals are being fused as grounded conductors pers say...they do have some fused white wires but ... they are needing them for all those new 240 V ( nominal ) connections....
I would hope this panel was at worst sited that it is in need of an upgrade to meet all the NEW demands this panel is trying to serve.
Ewww....crappy way to do the joists.....I would have some clients who would say...Paul...it was here and is still here way before you were born...I say....hmm...does not make it right...just OLD...lol
And I will not begin to start on that fuse in the keyless......amazing what home owners will do.....
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Originally Posted By: brian winkle This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
There are only 4 Edison fuses, each has a screw terminal. The other two are lugs designed for a larger wire. I think they are feed thru lugs fused by the main. They are not fused by the glass Edison fuses. Maybe they are not fused at all.
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Quite possible…some middle lug older style are feed thru…but noticing that some BLACK wires are on the same terminals I begin to wonder…
I love doing an inspection when I get panels like this...as a electrician my voltdar starts going nuts...lol...
Pictures do not always tell the story.....is their a GEC....is their a GE at all....thinks like that.....so I always like to keep comment on pictures basic as I know I can't hardly see things sometimes in a pic.
What I do know is those terminals were not designed to have the number of wires jammed in them...lol
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Originally Posted By: dedwards This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Get a lot of those same comments. “Its been like that for decades, nothing has happened yet.” I usually reply that “So have the ruins in Rome but I wouldn’t want to live in them.” Just because something has been wrong for decades doesn’t make them sudden okay. I see relatively new cars stalled on the side of the expressway all the time. Bet if those folks knew it was going to quit on them half way to their destination they would not have left the house. Same applies to mechanical / electrical equipment in a home. May be even more dangerous.
Greg,
We see a lot of this kind of stuff up here in the panhandle of Florida. Older homes abound here. Just did a place that had been expanded, built onto and a two car detached garage with, get this, two separate 240 specialty outlets (one for an electric welder) and a second for standard 240v. All being supplied through a 100 amp service on the side of the house. Most of the major appliances in the home used to be gas but had been converted to electric over the past few years. Range, furnace and water heater plus the lower branch wiring. Buyer wants to wait to do the electrical until after he moves his family in. Numerous other discrepancies besides but all we can do is list it, discourage it and move on.
Originally Posted By: gbell This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
I did write up that the system was obsolete. Have a licensed and qualified electrician evaluate the entire system for needed repairs. Verbally I told the client that if it were mine I would have the whole house rewired and upgrade the service. This house had all kinds of problems. The listing agent had a great solution for any problem that I pointed out.
On a side note when going outside I saw her and her agent talking and went over. The agent said that she really didn?t want her to buy a home with so many problems. They should keep looking to find something else. I complimented the agent for putting her client?s interest first.
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Dang david…now that IS a old one. Must have bought that one out of the old sears and robuck cat. back in the early 1900’s…lol…Was it from Edisons house?