QOD for 05/05/04 (structural)

Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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hi to all,

another foundation question today.

regards

Gerry


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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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That’s what they call a no-brainer! icon_exclaim.gif



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Originally Posted By: tgardner
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I particularly like the “buy a structural engineer” pun. - tg


Originally Posted By: Lew Lewis
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Gerry,


Is the brick section actually supporting the framing or was the brick added at a later time?. It looks like there may be piers as the original support. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Do you really need a P.E.?. Just tell them to remove and replace the entire brick wall; it's obviously failed.

Neal


Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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Are you going to design it, Lew?



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Originally Posted By: roconnor
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Lew Lewis wrote:
Just tell them to remove and replace the entire brick wall; it's obviously failed.

Be very careful there Lew ... not only should an HI not get into specific repair methods, but if that really is a bearing wall or masonry infill intended to shore up an undersized/deteriorated perimeter beam, the whole house may come down ... ![icon_eek.gif](upload://yuxgmvDDEGIQPAyP9sRnK0D0CCY.gif)


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Originally Posted By: Lew Lewis
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[Are you going to design it, Lew?[


No, I am not going to design it; that's not my job, Ryan.

Robert, if a contractor with half a brain does the repair, it won't fall down.

I guess my point is that this "get a P.E" gets carried too far, IMO. I see H.I. reports that comment on one cracked floor joist in a basement that recommend an engineer.

Neal


Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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Lew: If you say “have a contractor with half a brain re-build your wall”, you may as well have designed it. If you say “have engineer address wall failure”, you have transferred the liability off of your shoulders.



Ryan Jackson, Salt Lake City

Originally Posted By: jpope
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Neal,


As I see it, it is our duty as HI's to (I'll say it again) "recommend or defer to the highest authority." In this case that would certainly be a PE.

Any contractor that would take on this project would undoubtedly be required to have plans that are approved by a PE before they could even start the work or get permits.

Our recommendation for the "higher authority" of a PE is prudent as we would expect that appropriate permits be obtained prior to the commencement of any work.

If our recommendation was simply for a contractor that subsequently failed to obtain plans and permits, we could find ourselves partially liable (IMHO).


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