QOD for 1/28/04

Originally Posted By: dbush
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Today’s question is:



Dave Bush


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Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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That is very interesting and it is naturally something we should know, but how many of us (you) actually measure this? It is a difficult number to see without a measuring stick over a run of stairs icon_biggrin.gif


Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Agreeing with Blaine. I never measure this. Who does?



Joe Farsetta


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Originally Posted By: dbush
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Don’t measure does not necessarily mean we do not need to know the answer.



Dave Bush


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"LIFE'S TOUGH, WEAR A HELMET"

Originally Posted By: jpope
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The reality is, unless it’s within the first two or three steps, you will trip on in almost every time you use the stairs.


There is no "getting use to" uneven risers.

Do I measure this? No. Not until I trip on one, or I can "feel" the difference. It's much more difficult to determine the "unevenness" if the stairs are carpeted.


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Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi to all,


I'm with Dave on this one, do I measure every one HELL NO but if the're are some obviously way out of sync I do write it up, not as a code issue but a possible trip hazard.

Regards

Gerry


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Originally Posted By: Guest
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He didn’t say “riser” he said “run”


Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi Chad,


I don't see the difference, the riser/run ratio should be a constant.

regards

Gerry


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Originally Posted By: phinman
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I only measure treads if they are obviously less tha 9". I will almost always measure the first and last risers of field buit stairs because this is the most common error with carpenters field building stairs.


I'm still building a few homes and here in the town I'm building in there is one inspector checking the height from the top of the sill to the first tread on exterior doors and sliders!

Phil


Originally Posted By: Guest
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Hi Gerry,


He asked only about run. There's no mention of rise or ratio's. Or of swiss cheese. Damn, now you've made me hungry


Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi to all,


IRC 312:2 do not see the difference either, neither run nor riser should exceed ???????????

Regards

Gerry


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Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Quote:
Don't measure does not necessarily mean we do not need to know the answer.


I also did not say we didn't need to know, but how many of us actually measure to check. I will guarantee that I have missed this over the past almost ten years in homes with finished basements. You will not trip on any step with a variance in tread width of ?" or less, unless you are a clutz. You might on rise (and I have been known to be a clutz, so I know of which I speak) It is also very hard to differentiate ?" or less on carpeted steps over an average 12 to 14 step run. The carpet installation may be off by almost that much in itself.

Now that we're splitting hairs, how many of you measure the height of the handrail off of the stairs?

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Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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BTW Dave,


This QOD was an excellent idea. Kudos.


Originally Posted By: dbush
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Just wait for tomorrow’s question… icon_biggrin.gif



Dave Bush


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"LIFE'S TOUGH, WEAR A HELMET"

Originally Posted By: dbush
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The answer is …B. 3/8"


Lots of comments and views, now if we could get more people answering them. Today's question will come soon.


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Dave Bush
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"LIFE'S TOUGH, WEAR A HELMET"

Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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At least we had more answers than commentators. It would be scary if the other way around!


Originally Posted By: rwills
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Dave, I agree with Blaine, excellent idea, keep it up! It’s a welcome break from all the “good idea-bad idea” daily grind. As for all the criticism! icon_rolleyes.gif



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Originally Posted By: dbush
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Thanks, hopefully I might at least make people think, I have not studied that recently.



Dave Bush


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"LIFE'S TOUGH, WEAR A HELMET"

Originally Posted By: rwills
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Dave,


After 25 years in the construction industry, you sure are making me think! Funny how many tidbits of information one can retain no matter how important or trivial they may be. Not so funny when you realize how many you forgot! eusa_think.gif



Bob Wills - MAB Chairman


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Originally Posted By: bkelly2
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bump



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