By CA standards, it’s perfect. . .
well wayne there are so many things wrong here it’ hard to say them all. As far as the Realtor is concered you don’t need there help , to get jobs . I have been practicing for 13 years and have sent many so called realtors to the yellow pages its hard to count them all. Never lower your5 standards for anyone! What happens when they have a visiter and they are maimed by steam? Like I said you are the proffessinal so act like it and take your lumbs when they come along. Belive me when I say they allways allways come back in the end.
lol Dennis your right and I have had few disgruntle Realtors too but that’s life,
I do have a lot of good Realtors that i trust and i have few I would even use .
Really Jeff?? No piping to the exterior or to a drain and closer to the ground?
And especially in a living area needs a pan.
Piping to the exterior is required for interior locations such as this, however, the UPC requires the termination to be between 6" and 24" from the floor/surface.
I visited the Tennessee Real Estate Commission website…quite frankly their rules and regulations are a joke…I think they have more rules that have been repealed than anything…they obviously have a strong influence with the state legislative body.
CYA.
It doesn’t need to be within 6" of the floor into a pan there Jeff?
Wayne, you work for the buyer period. The Realtor has no business in questioning your integrity or your assessment. I would have made a full out of him in front of your client. The Realtor is there just to open the house if you do not have a SUPRA key period NOT to interrogate you.
When you are performing an inspection it is your SHOW! Two people YOU and YOUR CLIENT. The report goes to your client. He is paying for it! If he has a question he should call you. The Realtor does not play any role in the inspection process other than opening the house (maybe).
That is my take:mrgreen:.
A good example of being cognizant and be careful about taking everything you read on bulletine boards for gospel. Not all States use the IRC for everything. Some use the UPC for plumbing, some obviously do not use codes at all while some use a mix mash of rules. Often too, you will find counties and cities will make their own rules (codes) and requirements. This used to common knowledge among Home Inspectors and was THE reason the HI should not be quoting codes or making assumptions about codes unless they were versed in them for all the counties, cities, municipalities, etc. they worked in. A very good reason too.
I don’t take the board as gospel, The main concern for me was the gas fired unit in the bedroom which was a garage converted ( reason it was in there )
I am not going get sued over something not mention regarding safety. I did not quote any codes However i did refer it to a qualified Licensee Plumber as the electric went to a electrician Btw buyers where friend with the agent and did not buy the home so i was told by the office. And was baned by the agent for doing any inspections for him and office according to him , Kinda through s out working for the buyer doesn’t it.
Wayne.
I was not speaking to anyone specifically. I was attempting to show some of the new inspectors not to be so quick to take everything they read here as the answer to end all. We have seen repeatedly where one thing that is allowed in one part of the country is not in another. There is a tendency for someone new to the profession to just take everything without thought. I also prefer to point someone to a website where they can learn for themselves rather than just tell them answer. The old teach a man to fish fable. That way they have a resource for the next time they have a question.
I knew that Doug and i know what you mean , I didn’t want anyone thinking i quote codes, Well anyway loose a few and win a few . I know who not to recommend as a agent anyway. Some look out for the buyer other don’t care
The UPC states “not more than twenty-four inches from the floor, and not less than six inches from the floor,” and “must not discharge into a pan.”
In my past life, I was the VP for Learning and Performance Development for one of the largest lenders in the US, I trained trainers/underwriters on how to review appraisals. If there was a safety issue (such as this water heater) the appraiser must point out the concern to the lender. Appraisers have the same responsibility to there customers (the lender/home buyer) that we have to ours. There is a section in the appraisal were comments can be made to the condition of the subject, typically if the appraiser makes a comment in this section the lender must do there due diligence to get it rectified before taking on the liability them selves. The Real Estate Agent is a liability to you, the homeowner, lender and the Real Estate profession she has promised to uphold. Congrats for taking the High Road!! Brad;)
Advise to others , Do not let a Agent tell you your job, Do not Argue with Them just go on your merry way. The report tells it all Anyway. As Doug says do not take everything on here as the gospel but pay attention , fellows like Doug , Jeff and many others are a EXTREMELY GOOD SOURCE OF INFORMATION. As a great Indian Chief said the tree trunk is strong but the branches are week, Other words if we all stick together we are stronger . Thanks Doug and jeff and many other that posted on this I greatly appreciate all the thoughts and support on this . IT’S good to have support on something you new was right but it still cost you . I am not sure how much pull this fellow has but what goes around comes around . LOL for now i quess i wont be doing any of his office’s inspection , But upside it opens a place for other inspectors .
Wayne,
It seems that you are overly concerned with your relationship with the Realtors office. Call the Broker, and explain the situation. If things are as you described, you may have a better relationship in the future, as all good “Managers” want to know of issues with their “people”. If there is a problem, the Broker can, and usually will, “fix it”.
Jeff
Not at all Jeff I am not worried the lost of this guy. But the ripple effect he may spread for his own self being
Most good agents will respect you for standing your ground when you’re right - and in this case you were right. The ones that are just pushing their own agenda will have very little “ripple affect” on your business. Generally, their own associates already know what kind of people they are.
I, usually, don’t have that problem :mrgreen:
When an agent starts saying these things, I just show them my license and ask, “Do you have one of these?”. When they answer no, I calmly explain, “Well then, I guess your uninformed and un-professional opinion doesn’t really matter then.”
Shuts them you good. But you GOTTA say it calmly and clearly.
Hope this helps;
Nothing picky about that. I’d be having words with that Realtor and it would be a “one way” conversation.