Stench

Originally Posted By: bsmith
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I did an inspection the other evening. The owner of the home had way too many pets (9 dogs, several cats, 3 parrots). 7 of the dogs were kept in the garage and were not housebroken.





My clients are interested in the house but were concerned (rightly so) about the unbelievable stench caused by these dogs. I’m sure that the waste from these dogs has been soaking into the unfinished concrete floor for quite some time. I know this is beyond the scope of a normal HI, but does anyone have any suggestions for “de-stinkification” of the garage?



Bill Smith


www.SmithHomeInspection.com


“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.” A. Einstien

Originally Posted By: jburkeson
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Hi Bill,


First I would clean & disinfect most likely using a 50/50 mix of bleach & water, then power-wash, lastly I would use an Ozone Generator for a few days. That should do it.


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Joseph Burkeson, RPI (Hooperette)

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jburkeson wrote:
Hi Bill,

First I would clean & disinfect most likely using a 50/50 mix of bleach & water, then power-wash, lastly I would use an Ozone Generator for a few days. That should do it.


There has been a discussion on this BB about Ozone generators.
I would recommend that it is read before decisions are made on using one .
I believe it was Caoimh?n P. Connell, Industrial Forensic Hygenist who posted the information


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Originally Posted By: rbennett
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How much stench do you want to take away and how fast??


Dogs in the garage are not the problem. The real issue is the cats in the house.

Pets can bring the value of a property down just like any other pest. Remediation is in order and should come off the price of the house.

My recommendation - call a pro - a commercial cleaning company.

To some people cat is worse than certain types of mold. Rat and mouse is also something else that will make a real mess.

Good pix of the pups

And can you believe some people have no problem living this way?

rlb


Originally Posted By: cmccann
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Any why would they buy this house?



NACHI MAB!

Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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I thought the stench was from some of the other threads on this board. icon_lol.gif


Originally Posted By: bsmith
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cleaning and a bit of cosmetic attention.


Thanks for your replies.



Bill Smith


www.SmithHomeInspection.com


“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.” A. Einstien

Originally Posted By: John Bowman
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Muratic Acid will do the trick.


Originally Posted By: bsmith
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Muratic acid in a 10% solution?



Bill Smith


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“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.” A. Einstien

Originally Posted By: John Bowman
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bsmith wrote:
Muratic acid in a 10% solution?


The brand that I use is "TRANSCHEM Muriatic Acid"

Directions:

USE ONLY WITH ADEQUATE VENTILATION - WEAR PROTECTIVE CLOTHING: RUBBER GLOVES AND PLASTIC SAFETY GLASSES ARE RECOMMENDED.

Remove cap and carefully cut away seal. Use a plastic container for mixing. Start with a high dilution (such as one part acid to 20 parts water). Always pour acid slowly into water and avoin spashing. Gradually strengthen solution if necessary. If acid reacts by bubbling when applied, solution is strong enough. Flush thoroughly with water immediately after cleaning - usually 1 to 2 minutes. Repeat if necessary.

PS. Muratic Acid is excellent for adjusting PH levels in swimming pools also.

Read and follow directions carefully.


Originally Posted By: bsmith
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Thanks John - sounds potent! I’ll keep that information for myself. It sounds too dangerous to recommend to a client. It’s good to know though.



Bill Smith


www.SmithHomeInspection.com


“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.” A. Einstien

Originally Posted By: John Bowman
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Bill,


Your welcome.

Truth be known, Muratic Acid at one time was only sold to Contractors, masons, etc. Joe Homeowner could not buy it. But now they sell it at any hardware store (in my area) for about $3.00 per gallon to anyone. The muratic acid being sold over the counter is a much weaker by-product of the original stuff. Chlorine is just as harmful as this stuff. Still use extreme caution - one splash in the eye and well the rest is left up to your imagination - just like chlorine.

Other fixes may be "Kitty litter", Oil smell clean-up granuales, a good concrete deck painting, etc.


Originally Posted By: bsmith
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Thanks again John - all excellent ideas.



Bill Smith


www.SmithHomeInspection.com


“The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.” A. Einstien

Originally Posted By: sbyrnes
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I’ve done restoration work and some of these ideas are pretty good ones. The best thing you can do is suggest a professional cleaning company that specializes in this area. After doing that to CYA, you may suggest the bleach solution, but 50% seems a lot, 20% should do you, and if it is an exposed concrete floor you might also suggest sealing the concrete with a good Kilz to help encapsulate the odor. Ozone machines are designed to pull odor out of the air as they break down the carbon molecules that most odors come from. A commercial grade machine can also be very dangerous and should not be used in an occupied home. The machine needs to be run in a vacant house and after it is turned off, the house needs to be ventilated for a minimum on 24 hours. This, of course, is just my opinion.



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Originally Posted By: gporter
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Give them a clothes pin for the nose. Put your business name on it.



Gary Porter


GLP’s Home and Mold Inspections LLC


Orlando, Fl 32828


321-239-0621


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Note the Conditions and Odors as part of your report.



Joseph Hagarty


HouseMaster / Main Line, PA
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Originally Posted By: bsmith
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Quote:

Give them a clothes pin for the nose. Put your business name on it.


Never pass up a chance to market! Hey, my name would be right under their noses!!


Quote:
Note the Conditions and Odors as part of your report.


Duly noted. The ammonia smell was overpowering. As I was reviewing the report with them after the inspection I mentioned the condition. The wife gave me a classic "No SH*T Sherlock!!" look. I mentioned it in the narrative anyway.


Thanks for all the replies.


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Bill Smith
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"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." A. Einstien

Originally Posted By: jrooney
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Acids and bleach in sufficient strength and volume to clean also can contribute to some other problems due to contaminating the ground. Avery good product line I use is 1st Envirosafety inc out o Florida. The industrial strength cleaner really does what it says with no residual contamination. you can find more on them at www.1stenvirosafety.com I think? i’ve cleaned old oil stained concrete and it not only cleans, but the concrete looks like it was never oiled at all. Here in Cal. we have some pretty strict rules and nosy neighbors. I learned the hard way. (The hygenists here say NEVER use bleach). The stuff is pretty inexpensive also and an be diluted to be used for different purposes. Hope it works out for you. Jim Rooney


Originally Posted By: jrooney
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Oh yeah one more thing. Chlorine and ammonia gives you chlorine gas and in a closed garage can kill. Jim Rooney


Originally Posted By: rcooke
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jrooney wrote:
Oh yeah one more thing. Chlorine and ammonia gives you chlorine gas and in a closed garage can kill. Jim Rooney

Chlorine in a galvanised bucket is also very bad. Plastic only.


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