Stop the Hooper/Inspection Depot Assault on NACHI Members

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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jeffghooper wrote:
You sir are scum


To our Director of Professional Development:
jeffghooper wrote:
I have no intentions of wanting to provide your education.


To the NACHI membership:
jeffghooper wrote:
I told Michael that I am not doing anything for free anymore. I meant it. To do what you guys want me to do will cost a great deal of my time. I have made my proposal and your time is up. I have seen no money from your organization. I must move on to productive ventures and stop playing with non productive ones. Unless you want to cough up the 90K or about 1/3 of my salarey as it will take about a third of a year to put the program together. Money talks, BS walks. Here me walking?


On Florida licensing:
jeffghooper wrote:
If I had it my way you would have to be State Licesned as an Architect, Engineer, Building Inspector or Contractor to be a HI. Fortunatly for the inspectors in Florida I do not get to make the rules.



If you agree with what these people stand for, by all means - continue to support them financially as harris and BK plan to do. IMO, it is best to let them earn our financial support with a change in their direction.


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www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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jbushart wrote:
Here are a few more position statements made by Mike Rowan's friend, Jeff Hooper, who is teaming up with him in his business ventures:

To our ED, John Bowman:
jeffghooper wrote:
You sir are scum


To our Director of Professional Development:
jeffghooper wrote:
I have no intentions of wanting to provide your education.


To the NACHI membership:
jeffghooper wrote:
I told Michael that I am not doing anything for free anymore. I meant it. To do what you guys want me to do will cost a great deal of my time. I have made my proposal and your time is up. I have seen no money from your organization. I must move on to productive ventures and stop playing with non productive ones. Unless you want to cough up the 90K or about 1/3 of my salarey as it will take about a third of a year to put the program together. Money talks, BS walks. Here me walking?


On Florida licensing:
jeffghooper wrote:
If I had it my way you would have to be State Licesned as an Architect, Engineer, Building Inspector or Contractor to be a HI. Fortunatly for the inspectors in Florida I do not get to make the rules.



If you agree with what these people stand for, by all means - continue to support them financially as harris and BK plan to do. IMO, it is best to let them earn our financial support with a change in their direction.


You sir, have no idea who, or what I support. You makes comments like this often not knowing what the crap you are talking about. Why don't you back the statement up! ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


Originally Posted By: dharris
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It's like this, harris. There are many different vendors who supply quality materials and services to home inspectors. Inspection Depot is only one of several.

Prudent NACHI members will purchase from those vendors who (1) do not support legislation that will put them out of business, (2) do not support high profile people who use their positions to express such garbage about them as Hooper does, and (3) who support NACHI members and their ideals.

Maybe Inspection Depot will someday get on board with us. Until then, IMO, we should certainly not support them in their attempt to harm us. You ASHI guys can go ahead, if you like. We can always take our business elsewhere. ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)
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The only way I see ID or any body else that supports raising the professionalism of our profession can harm nachi is provide nachi members valuable training and information allowing that member to join ashi quicker. Is that what your concerned about?


Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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jbushart wrote:
Here are a few more position statements made by Mike Rowan's friend and business associate, Jeff Hooper, who is teaming up with him in his Inspection Depot business ventures:

To our ED, John Bowman:
jeffghooper wrote:
You sir are scum


To our Director of Professional Development:
jeffghooper wrote:
I have no intentions of wanting to provide your education.


To the NACHI membership:
jeffghooper wrote:
I told Michael that I am not doing anything for free anymore. I meant it. To do what you guys want me to do will cost a great deal of my time. I have made my proposal and your time is up. I have seen no money from your organization. I must move on to productive ventures and stop playing with non productive ones. Unless you want to cough up the 90K or about 1/3 of my salarey as it will take about a third of a year to put the program together. Money talks, BS walks. Here me walking?


On Florida licensing:
jeffghooper wrote:
If I had it my way you would have to be State Licesned as an Architect, Engineer, Building Inspector or Contractor to be a HI. Fortunatly for the inspectors in Florida I do not get to make the rules.



If you agree with what these people stand for, by all means - continue to support them financially as harris and BK plan to do. IMO, it is best to let them earn our financial support with a change in their direction.



Oh yea, You leader Nick still supports them, he has been as quite as Michael Rowan. And we all know most likely he has read the thread. ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)

Why don't you get his angle on the matter?


Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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http://www.educationdirect.com/inspector/index.html


James:

What is your view on this program?


--
Joseph Hagarty

HouseMaster / Main Line, PA
joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com
www.householdinspector.com

Phone: 610-399-9864
Fax : 610-399-9865

HouseMaster. Home inspections. Done right.

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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If you are in or around New York State, this state licensed home inspection training school offers discounts to NACHI members.


http://abitcoinc.com/


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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Florida community colleges are another source of valuable training with reasonable tuition.


http://www.nachi.org/communitycollegekolf2005.htm

Of course, you won't get to hear Hoopy's class on how to make money suing home inspectors as an "expert witness" in a community college. You will have to pay Inspection Depot to hear that.


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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jbushart wrote:
If you are in or around New York State, this state licensed home inspection training school offers discounts to NACHI members.

http://abitcoinc.com/


From their Website:

"The training is recognized by New York State by Licensing ABITCO as the only New York Home Inspection Training School in the state."

Is this true?


--
Joseph Hagarty

HouseMaster / Main Line, PA
joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com
www.householdinspector.com

Phone: 610-399-9864
Fax : 610-399-9865

HouseMaster. Home inspections. Done right.

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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Nationwide, ITA offers courses that are approved for CEUs by all the major associations (even NACHI) and are approved by many states for CEUs, as well. Check them out, here.


http://www.nachi.org/nachiandita.htm


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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jhagarty wrote:
http://www.educationdirect.com/inspector/index.html

James:

What is your view on this program?


As you know, Joe, I took that course. Of all the basic courses on the market, it is one of the best in that it is 210 hours while most others are 100 to 150 hours. It combines book lessons with audio and video tapes and serves as a great starting point for someone wanting to pool together their knowledge and learn more about this industry.

Like most courses of its kind, it is weak on marketing (relies heavily on real estate agent referrals) and it teaches a "checklist" report instead of the more valuable narrative report. Those are my only disappointments with it, though.

Why? Are you thinking of enrolling?


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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jhagarty wrote:
jbushart wrote:
If you are in or around New York State, this state licensed home inspection training school offers discounts to NACHI members.

http://abitcoinc.com/


From their Website:

"The training is recognized by New York State by Licensing ABITCO as the only New York Home Inspection Training School in the state."

Is this true?


I haven't researched that. Do you have reason to believe it isn't?


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: dharris
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Bushart, on 2nd thought I changed my mind. Keep up your campaign against ID and any other professional HI providers that don’t kiss your a$%.


In a few months they can sue Nick for millions of lost dollars. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif


Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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jbushart wrote:
jhagarty wrote:
http://www.educationdirect.com/inspector/index.html

James:

What is your view on this program?


As you know, Joe, I took that course. Of all the basic courses on the market, it is one of the best in that it is 210 hours while most others are 100 to 150 hours. It combines book lessons with audio and video tapes and serves as a great starting point for someone wanting to pool together their knowledge and learn more about this industry.

Like most courses of its kind, it is weak on marketing (relies heavily on real estate agent referrals) and it teaches a "checklist" report instead of the more valuable narrative report. Those are my only disappointments with it, though.

Why? Are you thinking of enrolling?


I found it odd that while posting recommendations for HI schools you did not post a link to the one you attended.


--
Joseph Hagarty

HouseMaster / Main Line, PA
joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com
www.householdinspector.com

Phone: 610-399-9864
Fax : 610-399-9865

HouseMaster. Home inspections. Done right.

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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Give me a chance, Joe.


There are so many different alternatives to Inspection Depot that I cannot get to all of them as quickly as you would like.

Here you go:

http://www.nachi.org/thomsoneducationdirect.htm


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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How about a NACHI discount for some fine electrical training from nationally recognized expert, Mike Holt?


http://www.nachi.org/mikeholt.htm

I get his newsletter several times per week and not once....NOT ONCE...has he ever called the Executive Director of NACHI "scum" as has Inspection Depot's Jeff Hooper.


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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Buying property is a complex and stressful task. In fact, it's often the biggest single investment you will make in your lifetime. At the same time, real estate transactions have become increasingly complicated. New technology, laws, procedures and competition from other buyers require buyer agents to perform at an ever-increasing level of professionalism. For many homebuyers, the process turns into a terrible, stressful ordeal. In addition, making the wrong decisions can end up costing you thousands of dollars. It doesn’t have to be this way!





Work with a buyer's agent who has a keen understanding of the real estate business and on your side. Buyer's agents have a fiduciary duty to you. That means they are loyal to only you and are obligated to look out for your best interests. Buyer's agents can help you find the best home, the best lender, and the best inspector. Best of all, in most cases, the buyer's agent is paid out of the seller's commission, even though he/she works for you.






Trying to buy a home without an agent at all is, well... unthinkable.







Deadly Mistake #3: Getting a cheap inspection.





Buying a home is probably the most expensive purchase you'll ever make. This is no time to shop for a cheap inspection. The cost of a home inspection is very small relative to the home being inspected. The additional cost of hiring a certified inspector is almost insignificant. As a homebuyer, you've recently been crunching the numbers, negotiating offers, adding up closing costs, shopping for mortgages, and trying to get the best deals. Don't stop now. Don't let your real estate agent, a patty-cake inspector, or anyone else talk you into skimping here.





Many multi-inspector firms require inspectors to perform up to four inspections per day in order to keep their fees low, working on a "volume basis". This could be fatal to the home buyer who is expecting an inspector to spend as much time as necessary to investigate and analyze the biggest purchase they will probably make in their entire lives. Search for an independent home inspector who focuses on quality inspections instead of quantity. His price is higher, but his report is more accurate and more in depth.





Ensure that your home inspector is a member of a national organization that requires its members to adhere to a strict code of ethics and who will consistently operate under a published inspection standard. This will ensure that your inspector is up to date in his training and is not operating on his own whim, making things up as he goes along. He is accountable to that agency's standards and codes. Feel free to check with organization he belongs to in order to ensure he is in good standing with them.





NACHI front-ends its membership requirements. NACHI turns down more than 1/2 the inspectors who want to join because they can't fulfill the membership requirements.





Many NACHI certified inspectors perform the best inspections by far and earn their fees many times over. They do more, they deserve more, and yes they generally charge a little more. Do yourself a favor...and pay a little more for the quality inspection you deserve.

Interesting read eh? Guess where it is from?


Originally Posted By: jbushart
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I have had enough of Nachi and I will do everything in my power to see to it they are not a part of Florida.


Does Inspection Depot's featured instructor Jeff Hooper appreciate you?


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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NACHI members who provide quality training and will bring it to you at your Chapter meeting:


http://www.nachi.org/cats2005.htm

http://www.joetedesco.org/


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: rbennett
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Lets change how we are looking at the ID thing. If they can get low cost instructors to instruct on subjects that are not needed for HI’s it is great for the bottom line. It is better if they can get the FL leg to require training. They now have a real $$ pit. I am sure other training companies support state leg for required training. This is how they make more $$. No big deal.


Here is where the mistakes start. Get in bed with the wrong people and your $$ pit goes away. Get an contract instructor (1099) onboard that says the wrong thing and you get blamed. Support the wrong org and the same thing happens.

Many NACHI member (self) want good state reg. but what Hooper and friends have put on the table is bad (see other threads) While some NACHI members want state regs to help protect their business others (self) want less gov.

In the big pix it seem wrong for the state to pass reg for the purpose of making $$ for schools and established HI's. Make regs to protect the public. ID wants NACHI for one reason $$. CE is $$

NACHI's (because of member work) on line, chapter meetings and National Convention CE takes a lot of $$ away from schools. REAL simple try to get NACHI to use your school.

It is all $$ not some deeper motivation to make the industry better.

NACHI has one major flaw - we have a lot of members that are trying to make the profession better. We do not hurt the program by being so open on how to get the job done. We hurt the program when we keep our mouth shut.

We have too many members not saying anything.

rlb


rlb


Originally Posted By: jburkeson
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dharris wrote:
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I encourage all NACHI members to join the Central Missouri NACHI chapter in its refusal to spend any money with Inspection Depot and, instead, seek NACHI-friendly vendors to do business with.



IMO, one should not assist this anti-NACHI political movement with your financial support of any anti-NACHI businesses.



IMO, you should think of this before you make a purchase of home inspection equipment or services and be sure you are not supporting people who support this sentiment.



![icon_rolleyes.gif](upload://iqxt7ABYC2TEBomNkCmZARIrQr6.gif) ![icon_rolleyes.gif](upload://iqxt7ABYC2TEBomNkCmZARIrQr6.gif) I'm confused. Are you saying that nachi members should not use the services of a vender that provides valuable HI training provided by nationally recognized trainers if they also support another org.



What are you afraid of other than the fact that nachi inspectors may receive valuable information and recognize the fact that nachi may not be the only org and place to excel in this profession.

Let me guess the message to nachi members is to retain membership " Worship Nick and Nachi," Communism and dictatorship at its finest. ![icon_rolleyes.gif](upload://iqxt7ABYC2TEBomNkCmZARIrQr6.gif)[/quote]




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Joseph Burkeson, RPI (Hooperette)

?Anyone who has proclaimed violence his method inexorably must choose lying as his principle.?
~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn