Originally Posted By: ajalowsky
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Try this one out for size.
Uh oh, I don't think this one's much better.
Try this one out for size.
Uh oh, I don't think this one's much better.
Originally Posted By: jmurray
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| ajalowsky wrote: |
| Try this one out for size.
Uh oh, I don't think this one's much better. |
You rock AIMEE!
Now, in answer 5 there is a mispelling.
Can you tell what it is since you made me get my reference material out? 
You should have thrown one in there about fastening the rafters to ceiling joists!
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Originally Posted By: lkage
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| If the exterior walls are slid masonry, the roof structure can simply rest on the top of the wall. There is no need to secure them as long as the bottoms of opposing rafters are tied together to prevent rafter spreading. |
Well, that's why you don't want to attach it...in case the masonry wall ever slid. 
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Originally Posted By: Aimee Jalowsky
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Without my reference books, I’ll guess its supposed to be ‘slide’?
Originally Posted By: Aimee Jalowsky
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Again, without my reference books I answered it correctly according to the practice website, because it made sense.
The answer is actually joist hangers and concrete nails.
How come so many chose the other answer? Which one is really correct according to the reference books?
Originally Posted By: lkage
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| ajalowsky wrote: |
| Again, without my reference books I answered it correctly according to the practice website, because it made sense.
The answer is actually joist hangers and concrete nails. How come so many chose the other answer? Which one is really correct according to the reference books?  |
I don't know about others, but I can't imagine trying to attach joist hangers to solid masonry with concrete nails...OWWWW!!
I've always bolted a plate to it and framed from there.
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Originally Posted By: lkage
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| ajalowsky wrote: |
| Without my reference books, I'll guess its supposed to be 'slide'? |
I believe solid masonry wall.
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Originally Posted By: Aimee Jalowsky
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Allright, lets get a majority vote out to change the answer.
Even Nick says its the second one.
Any other votes.
Originally Posted By: jpope
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The joist hangers require specific nails according to their manufacturer (usually Simpson).
Nailing every hole of a Simpson hanger into a concrete or masonry wall could severely damage the wall. I have seen it done, but the most common practice is a ledger board bolted to the face of the concrete.
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Originally Posted By: troberts1
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I have been in the construction industries for 20 + years a buliding contractor for five of those years a home inspector for the past two years, and I have never seen or used concrete nails to attach joist hangers. And Jeff is right it would chip the concrete jeopardizing it’s integrity.
Originally Posted By: away
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I checked the 2003 IRC and found a couple of illustrations that would support the premise that the second answer is correct.
The illustrations I am finding are R606.10(1), (2), and (3). Each of the ones that show a roof, have a bolted sill and the ceiling joist and roof rafter nailed to that.
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Originally Posted By: John Bowman
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| away wrote: |
| I checked the 2003 IRC and found a couple of illustrations that would support the premise that the second answer is correct.
The illustrations I am finding are R606.10(1), (2), and (3). Each of the ones that show a roof, have a bolted sill and the ceiling joist and roof rafter nailed to that. |
Ditto..This question needs to be either deleted from the data base or reworked.
Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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The anchoring system may be different also due to specific local seismic or hurricane codes.